(05-10-2017, 01:08 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: So far this offseason, Pacman has spit on a nurse, threatened a cop's life, went on a profanity-laced tirade towards a media member that asked a polite and reasonable question,

(05-10-2017, 10:48 PM)Shady Wrote: Social media is a double-edged sword. This kid is trying to get his 15 minutes of fame by posting about getting cussed out by a celebrity after crashing into his car. Screw him. Whiner. Go back to driver's ed and learn a few things about adjusting for road conditions. Don't follow so close to people. Idiot!

(05-11-2017, 09:15 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Perfect example of how people twist facts to make Pac look bad.

Pac did not spit on a nurse.

Pac did not threaten a cops life.

Pac did not go on a profanity-laced tirad against a reporter.


There are plenty of real things to criticize Pacman.  No need to make up stuff like this.  But that is what happens when people decide they don't like a player.  They believe evbery half truth and rumour and treat them as truth.
 

(05-11-2017, 11:30 AM)pdub2005 Wrote: Honestly Fred, you are right, this situation is a non-issue. However, my beef with pac, is, and has been, his behavior on the field. The Redskins and oakland games stick the most out to me. He lets his emotions get us penalties at awful and unnecessary times.  I mean slamming amari coopers head on his helmet was ridiculous. Hope those anger management classes help him out. He honestly needs to be put on zoloft or neurotin. 

(05-11-2017, 11:43 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: This is what sucks! He does cost us big penalties some times due to his rage. Yet, he's still a good player.

(05-11-2017, 11:51 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Not bashing Marvin here, but Marvin needs to reign him in on acting like an ass on the field. 

(05-11-2017, 09:15 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Perfect example of how people twist facts to make Pac look bad.

Pac did not spit on a nurse.

Pac did not threaten a cops life.

Pac did not go on a profanity-laced tirad against a reporter.


There are plenty of real things to criticize Pacman.  No need to make up stuff like this.  But that is what happens when people decide they don't like a player.  They believe evbery half truth and rumour and treat them as truth.

(05-11-2017, 01:51 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: What did I make up?

http://nypost.com/2017/01/03/pacman-jones-arrested-for-spitting-on-nurse-head-butting-cop/

Now if you want to dispute what bouncers, police officers and nurses have to say, go at it. I'd love to hear your proof..

(05-11-2017, 04:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is your proof.  The Cincinnati Prosecuting Attorney who fully investigated the allegations, Joe Deters, dismissed the charges for spitting on the nurse because the nurse was a lying gold digger.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18977574/felony-charge-dropped-cincinnati-bengals-cornerback-adam-jones

Deters said the nurse involved in the case appeared to be seeking a civil settlement from Jones, which factored into his decision to drop the charges.

"She said I talked to her; I never spoke with her," Deters said. "I've still never spoken with her in any fashion about this case. Secondly, she denied that they were trying to get a civil settlement, which is entirely false. ... I'm not going to use the sledgehammer of criminal prosecution to get her money. She's been untruthful in talking to me, she's been untruthful about her willingness to settle this thing civilly."


But, of course you don't care about the real facts.  You even admitted that.  All that matters to you is the "court of public opinion".  Even if it is wrong.

(05-11-2017, 04:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is your proof.  The Cincinnati Prosecuting Attorney who fully investigated the allegations, Joe Deters, dismissed the charges for spitting on the nurse because the nurse was a lying gold digger.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18977574/felony-charge-dropped-cincinnati-bengals-cornerback-adam-jones

Deters said the nurse involved in the case appeared to be seeking a civil settlement from Jones, which factored into his decision to drop the charges.

"She said I talked to her; I never spoke with her," Deters said. "I've still never spoken with her in any fashion about this case. Secondly, she denied that they were trying to get a civil settlement, which is entirely false. ... I'm not going to use the sledgehammer of criminal prosecution to get her money. She's been untruthful in talking to me, she's been untruthful about her willingness to settle this thing civilly."


But, of course you don't care about the real facts.  You even admitted that.  All that matters to you is the "court of public opinion".  Even if it is wrong.

(05-11-2017, 05:19 PM)depthchart Wrote: Any way we can determine if the Nurse actually POSTS on this Board ?

If she does, it could tie the Final Bow in everything you have been saying.

She was a "hater" Poster all along and faked the spitting incident for the chance to Gold dig PLUS to reinforce her past anti Pac Man Board Posts. A Hater to the core.

Then other Board Poster haters chimed in as you point out all deluded by their Hater motives.

Good to know Joe Deters isn't a hater.

I think I am starting to piece together what you have been driving at with your Posts.  It's sinking in I think.

(05-11-2017, 05:27 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: But the article does state that he spit chaw from his mouth that it the back of her hand.  They may not be charging him with the assault with a bodily fluid, but he did spit on her

(05-11-2017, 05:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Apparently you have not even attempted to read my posts.

I have said that if Adam is convicted and suspended then the Bengals should release him.

You guys are accusing me of defending Pac when all I am doing is defending the idea of finding out what really happened before punishing someone.

You care more about "public opinion" than "truth".

(05-11-2017, 06:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: If it had been intentional then it would have been a crime, but apparently it wasn't.

And there was no threat to a police officers life.

And there was no profanity laced tirade at a reporter.

These are all perfect examples of what I was complaining about fans and police doing to Pac.  They exaggerate and tell lies about him and when they get caught they try to justify it by bringing up his past record.

(05-11-2017, 07:02 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: I didn't say anything about his intent.  Spit came from his mouth and landed on her hand.  It says so in the article YOU linked.

He didn't threaten the police officer personally, just stated on several occasions he hoped they died.  Class act.

He did go on a profanity laced tirade when the reporter asked him about his offseason.  He didn't even ask about the court case.  I heard the replay.

These are not exaggerations or lies.  Facts.  

Every time thugman gets a chance to show us who he his, he does.

And you defend him like he is the patron saint of the pass play.

He would do himself, the bengals, the city and his family a favor if he would just stfu.

You just love to argue every point don't you?

(05-11-2017, 04:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is your proof.  The Cincinnati Prosecuting Attorney who fully investigated the allegations, Joe Deters, dismissed the charges for spitting on the nurse because the nurse was a lying gold digger.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18977574/felony-charge-dropped-cincinnati-bengals-cornerback-adam-jones

Deters said the nurse involved in the case appeared to be seeking a civil settlement from Jones, which factored into his decision to drop the charges.

"She said I talked to her; I never spoke with her," Deters said. "I've still never spoken with her in any fashion about this case. Secondly, she denied that they were trying to get a civil settlement, which is entirely false. ... I'm not going to use the sledgehammer of criminal prosecution to get her money. She's been untruthful in talking to me, she's been untruthful about her willingness to settle this thing civilly."


But, of course you don't care about the real facts.  You even admitted that.  All that matters to you is the "court of public opinion".  Even if it is wrong.

(05-11-2017, 05:27 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: But the article does state that he spit chaw from his mouth that it the back of her hand.  They may not be charging him with the assault with a bodily fluid, but he did spit on her


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(05-11-2017, 09:05 PM)PDub80 Wrote: If you watch the video in the police station, you'll see that that was more than likely incidental - the DA stated this as well.

He didn't spit at or on her on purpose. She just happened to stick her hand down at the exact moment he turned his head to spit out his chew. Watch the video. I posted it in the Pacman goes off on reporter thread I believe.