(11-27-2017, 05:35 AM)Utts Wrote: I'll give you credit for putting a positive spin on things.

1) This isn't much of a selling point, if you don't think you're being setup for success.

2) We have an average QB. Is that going to tip he scales?

3) We have some good skill players, so do a lot of sick franchises. Gio and Kroft are not key selling points.

4) We have some good players on defense, but the unit looks pretty average right now. 

5) Tobin had a couple fantastic drafts, which generated some attention. The last few have been stinkers. That understaffed group is most certainly not a selling point.

6) Mike Brown and his Katie let Whit and Zeitler leave town, when our line was already sketchy. Dysfunctional? No. Incompetent? Maybe. Everybody saw this offensive line train wreck coming, including them, and they chose to go that route - because that's how they do things. You want an owner that wants to win above all else, and CLEARLY the Brown family is not. They have demonstrated this over and over again. A couple modest moves could have easily made this a 9-10 win team.

7) Top tier coaching talent doesn't seek out opportunities where expectations are low. They are Type A personalities, that are driven by success. It's absurd to think a guy like Josh McDaniels would favor a job, because things are so bad there - the media and fans have given up on them. Moreover, a top tier coach in that situation is going to generate huge expectations, whether they like it or not. 

(11-26-2017, 01:04 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Very true.

Just read this on PFT moments ago:


It was all in reference to their QB situation moving forward, but the portion in parenthesis stood out in particular.

(11-27-2017, 02:14 PM)CincyWestside Wrote: Josh McDaniels is my top choice.

He has HC experience. His Denver job was marred by outside influences. Crybaby Jay Cutler after hearing that McDaniels wanted Cassel to be his QB and diva Brandon Marshall. Not only that, but he had to deal with the Tim Tebow circus show too.

But McDaniels also checks all the other boxes for me as well. He has experience under Belichik, the greatest coach of all time. McDaniels knows how to adjust a gameplan and playcalling to exploit the weaknesses of the other team. His offense is always prepared for primetime, divisional, and playoff games. Not only that, but his offense performed well under Matt Cassel, Jacoby Brissett, and Jimmy Garropolo.

I am also hoping that Hue stays in Cleveland another year. I have watched him blunder a lot of things in Cleveland as the HC. Things that are Marvin level bad. Also, with Hue in Cleveland, we can probably get them to trade for AJM.

(11-27-2017, 09:09 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hard to blame Shurmur for being in Queefland no doubt.

Just look at what Hue has done there and he was a very good OC for us.


Tebow beat the Steelers there i remember, was McDaniels the HC then?

I just really want a HC that holds their own with these scumbags.

(11-25-2017, 04:02 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The ninja means he's not being completely serious.

(11-27-2017, 11:45 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: McDaniels, Cooter, Jay Gruden...I'd be ok with any of these guys.

Who I don't want is Guenther or Jackson. He'd be a good OC.

(11-28-2017, 12:05 PM)firstand10 Wrote: The Colts are interested in Matt Nagy!

(11-30-2017, 12:04 PM)firstand10 Wrote: I agree this team needs a tough get in their face coach! ML has been so passive since he came here,so IF we would hire a no nonsense coach would that be a detriment to the team or not. It would be such a turnaround,like night and day. Just thinking.
"We walk by faith not by sight"

(11-30-2017, 04:19 PM)WhoDeyLeisure Wrote: It's like everyone is just naming bad "big name" coaches.

(11-30-2017, 04:32 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher, Josh Mcdaniels...Bobby Knight.

Reason- all are winners who show emotion and are into the game

Thought Bobby Knight was a college basketball coach man.

(11-30-2017, 04:32 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher, Josh Mcdaniels...Bobby Knight.

Reason- all are winners who show emotion and are into the game

(11-30-2017, 04:27 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Lafleur, Nagy, Jim Bob Cooter, Peterson...

Name another good "small name" coach Whodeyleisure....

(11-30-2017, 05:05 PM)WhoDeyLeisure Wrote: I could be a "small name" coach.  I'd be a lot better with these "big name" clowns that people are naming.  Let us not be like the Browns and take everyone else's garbage because we have "heard of them".  

(11-30-2017, 04:41 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thought Bobby Knight was a college basketball coach man.

(12-01-2017, 12:38 PM)grampahol Wrote: A walking talking turnip at this point..I'm not sold on Marv leaving until he actually leaves. This debate has been ongoing to long now to give me any confidence that the proper changes will occur and I'm not sure there is any real incentive for McD to come to Cincinnati other than the idea that Mikey might keep him around till he dies of old age. Even scarier, Mikey might outlive us all! YIKES!