(07-08-2018, 02:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I think it should be a great year to do so. The FO actually made pretty much every move i wanted them to make this
Offseason for once. New proven LT, new young stud Center, new solid tackling LB and most of all, new O-line coach.

The people that don't see these moves as a big difference from the past befuddle me.

(07-10-2018, 09:56 AM)Hoofhearted Wrote: What about rewarding a coach with back to back losing seasons and worst PO failure in NFL history to a two year contract extension? 

(07-10-2018, 09:56 AM)Hoofhearted Wrote: What about rewarding a coach with back to back losing seasons and worst PO failure in NFL history to a two year contract extension? 

(07-10-2018, 12:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That is a good point that i completely understand, i was really fumed when they brought Marv back myself.

But then we let PA go and brought in Pollack, then the Glenn trade, then getting Preston Brown, both of these guys
are in their prime. Then we drafted a stud Center in the first and a ballhawk FS in the second etc.

I wanted a new coach as much as anyone but these moves are different from the past. We normally would of held
onto PA, kept Og at LT, signed a LB past his prime, waited till the 4th round to grab a Center and acted like we were
just fine at Safety.

(07-10-2018, 12:59 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: I ask again... why has it taken this long to start putting a little more effort into winning it all?

(07-10-2018, 12:59 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: So... it took 16 years to actually start doing things the right way? I fail to understand why we should take that blind faith because it seems like this year they've done things the right way. They finally buy water/gator aid for the players so we're finally doing things the right way. Good for them.

I ask again... why has it taken this long to start putting a little more effort into winning it all?

(07-10-2018, 01:19 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Can't answer that question.  I'm just glad to see some positives out of them for once.  Maybe they woke up or something.

(07-10-2018, 01:41 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: You're right. I am a Bengals fan until i die, but my hopefulness seems to be slowly fading. Maybe Marv not only changed the culture of the locker room, but that of the FO as well. Just took a lot longer since those are his bosses, idk. 

(07-10-2018, 01:55 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: I put no faith in talking heads and do not watch them, only seeing them posted here and whenever I search for something specific.  But I got to thinking about all the excellent points made here about the positive off season moves that I do not debate.  I figured, surely there has to be someone out there that is anal enough to look at ALL the off season moves EVERY team has made and make the same positive prediction based upon that.  No such luck.


https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/06/07/nfl-schedule-2018-team-record-predictions-analysis

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23645045/nfl-win-total-projections-all-32-teams-2018

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/05/2018-nfl-season-predictions-schedule-division-winners-playoffs-super-bowl-liii

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773307-win-loss-predictions-for-every-nfl-team-post-draft

(07-10-2018, 03:01 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Adam Rank from NFL.com has a nice article that is in the other thread saying how the Bengals will make the Playoffs.

CincyJungle in the OP gave some more great reasons. The only one of those guys you list i respect is Bleacher Report.

Certainly i don't give a damn about much ESPN says who never know much about the Bengals.

They predict us to lose every year it seems.

(07-10-2018, 03:42 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: Adam Rank seems to be third party, but CincyJungle certainly isn't.

(07-10-2018, 05:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Very true, but i would think CG would know more about the Bengals then ESPN who never know much about anything.

Also, i might add we always seem to be better when we fly under the radar anyways.

I wouldn't put much stock in what all the experts say good or bad. First off we need to stay relatively healthy, then the
O-line needs to gel and gain chemistry, but i think if the first happens it is only a matter of time before we are MUCH
better then last years shit show.

(07-10-2018, 05:23 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: Again Nate, I am not disagreeing with your assessment, after being a fan from the Bengals birth, the Paul Brown era was commendable, but the last 26 years have been disappointment after disappointment it's just come down to until the past 26 years of history changes, I will not get excited about it.

Like I told my wife and son after the 2015 Steelers/Bengals playoff game .... Bengal fans dare not celebrate until the clock reaches 00:00, the Bengals are at least 1 point ahead, and there are no yellow flags on the field!

(07-10-2018, 05:23 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: Again Nate, I am not disagreeing with your assessment, after being a fan from the Bengals birth, the Paul Brown era was commendable, but the last 26 years have been disappointment after disappointment it's just come down to until the past 26 years of history changes, I will not get excited about it.

Like I told my wife and son after the 2015 Steelers/Bengals playoff game .... Bengal fans dare not celebrate until the clock reaches 00:00, the Bengals are at least 1 point ahead, and there are no yellow flags on the field!

(07-10-2018, 06:27 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I was around for the PB era myself and I remember a lot of bad years.PB was a legend, don't get me wrong. 

(07-10-2018, 09:29 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: He knew football and could recognize talent in players and coaches.

I think the biggest coaching blunder he made was catastrophic when he hired 'Tiger' Johnson over Bill Walsh.

The worst season the Bengals had was MBs first year at the helm (1991) they went 3-13.

They went 3-11 in 1968, their first season which was PBs worst record, however who knows what would have happened if Greg Cook hadn't gotten hurt and Walsh would have been chosen as HC when PB stepped down.

PB also has 5 playoff wins and 2 SB appearances.

(07-11-2018, 12:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Do you think Frank Pollack will make a difference for the good over Paul Alexander?

(07-11-2018, 12:32 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: You didn't ask me but I will chime in. HELL YEAH!

(07-11-2018, 12:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, PB was a great mind, MB? Not so much.

One question Bengalguy71...

Do you think Frank Pollack will make a difference for the good over Paul Alexander?