(09-28-2018, 12:37 PM)HuDey Wrote: I don’t see the Tyreek Hill comparison. They are both fast, but beyond that they are totally different players. Tyreek is a RB at heart and plays with that type of mindset. Ross is lost at this level and doesn’t even resemble a football player at this point. I hope he can become the weapon he was supposed to be, but for now no one is afraid.

(09-28-2018, 08:56 AM)ochocincos Wrote: You’re right in that as long as the offense is producing, the Bengals don’t NEED Ross to be good. However, it’s my belief that a WR taken 9 overall was not meant to be the 4th/5th option in the passing game. Speedy guys can be found late in the draft to accomplish the same as the usage right now. The Bengals could (and should) have used that pick on another position to better impact the team if they didn’t actually intend to get a lot of production out of Ross (at least by a Year 3/4).

I think though that most people (including myself) expect/prefer first round picks (especially top 10) to be solid immediate contributors, but not all are. Some develop 3-4 years in. And yes, I am one who had (still has) high hopes for Ross and thought he’d be an immediate contributor, but not only was he injured most of last year and the offseason prior, he was trying to learn a Zampese offense then a year later had to learn a Lazor offense.

Hopefully Ross comes on by the end of the year, and if not, hopefully we see him break out at the start of Year 3.


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(09-28-2018, 01:46 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Remember too that Chad was said to have a struggle learning the playbook (at least in NE).

Speaking of Chad, in his first 12 games, he had only 329 yards and 1 TD. In Housh’s first 12 games, he had 228 yards and 0 TDs. They went on to have some pretty amazing years in stripes.
John Ross has only played 6 games, so I think people need to pump the breaks. Give him the rest of the year to see how he comes along.


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(09-28-2018, 07:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't think Ross has developed the Pro football mentality yet, that is all.

He has a football body just as much as Tyreek Hill does. Ross is a buff dude.

Don't understand anyone saying Ross doesn't even resemble a football player at this point. Not true IMO.

I agree with everything you said after that for sure 3wt. But sometimes players need to develop that Pro football mentality.

Took awhile for Chad and Housh as Ocho shown in the direct quote above yours.

(09-28-2018, 07:10 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, not every WR is AJ Green or Julio Jones that is for sure. But Ross's draft status is something some will always
talk about here. Wasn't Chad a 2nd round pick and Housh a 7th rounder? But we do need to have patience with a
young, raw, talented guy like Ross no question.

I guess i am just sick of hearing people trash Ross and want him to step it up and prove them all wrong.

Pronto, but hey, i need patience as well with this. Should have a great chance for his breakout game this weekend.

(09-29-2018, 02:34 AM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Agreed without pretty much all of this; I would also add dude has a TD and a key third down conversion that lead to another TD this season. For some reason that gets under looked

People need to relax it's only been 6 games for him and it's not like he is getting a ton of looks either.

(09-29-2018, 09:40 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Yea, Chad was pick 36 in the 2001 draft. However, I don’t get too caught up into when they were picked because players go earlier or later than what their talent suggests they should go all the time.

Remember, Lawson and Willis were projected top 50 players in the draft and ended going in Rd 3-4. On the flip side, most analysts had Nick Vigil rated as 4th-5th rounder but Bengals took in Rd 3. We heard rumblings that it was because GB was going to take him before the Bengals could in Rd 4. I bring this up because we knew going into draft night that the Bengals liked Ross. And both Williams and Davis went off the board before pick 9, so the likelihood of Ross falling probably wasn’t likely. So given the Bengals had interest, they didn’t want to risk missing out on him and took him at 9. Even trading back could have risked missing out.

As long as a player becomes a good player in the league, it doesn’t really matter what round they were drafted.



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(09-28-2018, 11:57 PM)Joelist Wrote: With Ross current problems with poor hands, incredibly bad route running and recognition skills he scares defenses not a bit. Why would he? If he can't catch he is no threat. Plus after his latest efforts if I were a QB I would refuse to target him, as he is a turnover waiting to happen.

Bench him or make him the returner and put Erickson in his spot, as at least Erickson is capable of catching the ball.

(09-29-2018, 12:16 AM)BengalChris Wrote: It's all about the football mentality. That's like 90% of the game. How many times have we seen a guy, with lessor physical traits, just be a damn good football player. Physical traits don't make the football player, it's the approach to the game and understanding it and the love of contact. Yeah, you've gotta be big enough and fast enough, but if the guy doesn't know where he's going and isn't 100% certain about that, then someone else is going to beat him there no matter how much faster he is.

Take Burfict for example. There has to be 90 LBs out there who can beat him in the 40, but he'll beat most of them to where the balls going to be.

I hope Ross does well. I really, really do. But until he actually does it in games that count he's going to be the guy who isn't doing it. Only he can change that. Every game counts for a lot. Every drive counts for a lot. So Ross is going to have to gain the coaches confidence to see the field much. We can't throw to him to get him going when we are behind and he's f'n it up.

(09-29-2018, 03:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I agree with everything you say here Chris, just saying it takes time with most every player to get that football mentality.

(09-27-2018, 01:45 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Are we still with Ross is basically still a Rookie again. Fml

(09-30-2018, 09:47 AM)kevin Wrote: That is the only way to look at it.  He didn't play his first year due to injuries, so he is just now in his first games looking very much like a rookie. Way too early to give up on #1 pick.  Here is the good news.  AJ Green and Boyd in first 3 games are both doing great so far in 2018.  Boyd is no surprise.  He was a big draft pick and came on strong in 2017, huge game winning TD to beat Ravens end of season.  Boyd has to be the #2 WR in 2018.  Green and Boyd are doing great. 

(09-30-2018, 06:13 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: So.... can we sideline the Ross hate for a week?

(09-30-2018, 06:13 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: So.... can we sideline the Ross hate for a week?  

(09-30-2018, 06:13 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: So.... can we sideline the Ross hate for a week?  

(09-30-2018, 06:13 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: So.... can we sideline the Ross hate for a week?  

(09-26-2018, 04:10 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: We need him not to suck n cause interceptions n turnovers n being a thorn in our side.  And I think we need him to be good because we drafted him at #9 which in a normal world we would want that guy to be good at football.  But Apparently in this crazy upside down world it’s okay to suck as long as the Bengals are good.