(03-28-2019, 10:36 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ehh, Zac's mouth hasn't exactly been spouting logical statements, either.  According to him Bobby Hart and Mike Brown are way better than any tangible evidence shows, and Jim Turner has been completely misunderstood and maligned by multiple people across multiple franchises for multiple reasons.

Don't get me wrong, I was sick of Marvin...but the amount of "Don't believe your eyes, don't look at the numbers, just believe what you hear from me" that has been coming from the front office and coaching staff lately is getting troubling/insulting.  I will say the guy told us to not believe our eyes when it comes to John Ross and we ate that up because it's what we wanted to hear, though.  I'll give him that one.

Anywho, there is still lots of off-season left, but IF IF IF IF IF Zac Taylor flops as a head coach we are going to have a wealth of stuff to look back on and say "No duh, the red flags were everywhere."

(03-28-2019, 07:15 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: "There wasn't shit else on the market (that we felt like paying for), so we had to do SOMETHING" - boy...what a ringing endorsement for Bobby Hart. Also, way to inspire confidence from the fan base. Reading this makes me pumped up for that "New Dey".

(03-28-2019, 03:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Worst thing about his comment was the smug tone of voice.  Does not sound professional at all.

And even if I agreed with the points he made he never explained why we had to sign Hart for THREE YEARS.  No free agent RTs this year?  Guess what, they have new free agents every year, dumbass.

(03-28-2019, 09:30 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: A bunch of haters you all are:

Mike Brown gets the general blame and a lot of the time it’s not even Mike anymore. https://t.co/N0JaOfyvh1

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(03-28-2019, 11:59 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Oh quit squealing and thrashing about, ya hater. 


We blame Mike Brown because we never know who really makes the decisions these days, but Mike has the lengthy track record of failure. 

Besides, even if he isn't making the decisions, he's employing the ones who are. 

(03-28-2019, 02:24 PM)ochocincos Wrote: You won't like what Troy had to say...
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41059312-4

What this really tells me is that Troy confirmed the Bengals go to the NFL equivalent of Wal Mart to get their FAs. They don't shop at the high-end name brand stores. No wonder they can't find anything nice. 

(03-28-2019, 03:04 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Not a surprising take from a guy who's only qualification for his job is sharing a double sided with the daughter of the owner.  

This guys a f'n joke.  Talking all tough like he's allowed to look his wife in the eyes when she snaps her fingers and he places her purse he was carrying in her hand.

(03-29-2019, 07:26 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: His comments are dead on and I applaud him for speaking out to delusional fans on "creating" something that wasn't there.

And I keep saying it but everyone seems to place all the blame on the offensive line on Hart.  He is a solid run blocker, with some holes in his pass protection.  He is 24 years old today and we needed to have him in place for Day 1 of camp.  They will most likely draft someone (or two) to push him to start, but unless they find a real gem that every other scout missed on, Hart will likely be the starting RT from day 1.  

Let's not forget the offense was not the problem when this team was 4-1 and with a new coach and scheme, well, doesn't it just seem like it HAS to be more innovative and less predictable?  This is the same offense that ran maybe one jet sweep with the fastest man in the NFL.  I never saw him get a screen.  I saw Gio sit and rot on the bench.  I saw two TEs on the field maybe twice....

Hart is not the devil.  Stop making him out to be.  And Troy, Katie, and Duke are putting together a good roster.  Nail this draft and it will be a great roster.  And they FINALLY got a coach that isn't from the 70s (I can't say 80s because we had some innovative coaches then).

(03-29-2019, 07:28 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Couldn't be further from the truth...

(03-29-2019, 08:15 AM)Hoofhearted Wrote: His comments are condescending and uncalled for. Yeah, Troy, you cannot go to Walmart to find an NFL right tackle brainiac. He could of said all of what you said and I wouldn't have a problem with it. But to come off like a smug prick is lame, especially after fans stopped showing up last year and you're trying to go through a re-imaging process. 

(03-29-2019, 07:26 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: His comments are dead on and I applaud him for speaking out to delusional fans on "creating" something that wasn't there.

And I keep saying it but everyone seems to place all the blame on the offensive line on Hart.  He is a solid run blocker, with some holes in his pass protection.  He is 24 years old today and we needed to have him in place for Day 1 of camp.  They will most likely draft someone (or two) to push him to start, but unless they find a real gem that every other scout missed on, Hart will likely be the starting RT from day 1.  

Let's not forget the offense was not the problem when this team was 4-1 and with a new coach and scheme, well, doesn't it just seem like it HAS to be more innovative and less predictable?  This is the same offense that ran maybe one jet sweep with the fastest man in the NFL.  I never saw him get a screen.  I saw Gio sit and rot on the bench.  I saw two TEs on the field maybe twice....

Hart is not the devil.  Stop making him out to be.  And Troy, Katie, and Duke are putting together a good roster.  Nail this draft and it will be a great roster.  And they FINALLY got a coach that isn't from the 70s (I can't say 80s because we had some innovative coaches then).

(03-28-2019, 11:41 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: It’s almost as if Troy is a member here.

And a hater at that.


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(03-29-2019, 04:34 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: When asked by his wife if she "looks good in these pants", Troy's response was, "less awful than usual. I've seen you naked umpteen million times. It's whatever at this point."

I'm not mad about the Hart contract, it's nice that the Browns decided to spend their money on a starting RT instead of pocketing it, I agree with some of what Troy has said here because there is a valid point in there somewhere, but MY GOD - holy ***** Christmas - he needs to work on his verbiage. He comes off as a GIGANTIC asshole each and every time that he opens up his mouth so far as I can see.

(03-29-2019, 09:24 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think you have your cause and effect mixed up on your statements.

Honestly, IF they let this kind of stuff leak to the press and stuff like the Whitworth text message gets out...what do you think they really think? They candycoat a lot of their PR on Bengals.com like Compensatory Picks are great! In reality, no one should believe that. You get special teamers year 1 through those picks generally and your probably lost a player that was a decent starter.

The reality is, they want to retain their own...but they do operate under a very strict budget. That budget doesn't allow for signing high priced free agents. That budget likely also applies to having a small scouting staff.

I don't think these people are inept. I think they have a view of the Bengals as some small market team like in baseball that could go bankrupt if they spent too much. The reality is that with revenue sharing, EVERY team can compete.