losing record   

(06-06-2019, 12:45 PM)depthchart Wrote: Interesting Poll results:    (assumes the 2019 Team is reasonably healthy)


with 84 total Votes in the Poll:


willing to accept only an above .500 record  =   27 votes or  32.14 %
 
willing to accept an 8 and 8 record  = 24  votes or 28.57 %
 
willing to accept a below .500 record  =  33 votes or 39.29 %



67.86 % of Voters are willing to accept a reasonably healthy Bengal team to go 8 and 8 or worse under Zac's leadership in 2019.


Nearly 40 % will accept a below .500 losing record   

(06-06-2019, 03:49 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: Most of us know that the odds of ZT coming out of the gates looking like the second coming of BB isn't realistic. All Bengals fans would hope he does at least as good as ML did over the last three years but if their is a change in team chemistry and smart coaching decisions that points to future success then I would still be enthusiastic. While eight wins is possible its not guaranteed and if you waited 17 years for Marvin then giving Zac more than one season shouldn't be that difficult.

(06-06-2019, 03:49 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: Most of us know that the odds of ZT coming out of the gates looking like the second coming of BB isn't realistic. All Bengals fans would hope he does at least as good as ML did over the last three years but if their is a change in team chemistry and smart coaching decisions that points to future success then I would still be enthusiastic. While eight wins is possible its not guaranteed and if you waited 17 years for Marvin then giving Zac more than one season shouldn't be that difficult.

(06-06-2019, 05:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I don't recall anyone saying if Zac gets less than 8 wins, fire him. The OP asked what would make us happy for the future. If Zac takes a vet team that suffered major injuries in 2018 and had 6 wins and only wins 8 games, I would have serious concerns if Zac was the answer long term.

But, I would not suggest firing him after one year unless he won 3 or less games.

(06-07-2019, 10:21 AM)BengalsRocker Wrote: I agree.

The question is "what record would you accept and feel okay about it"?

There's logical reactions.  Then there's feelings.

Logically there is doubt/gray area for a coach that has never been an NFL head coach anywhere.

You'd think that he'd need some growing pains and adjustments with staff/coordinators/schemes and players.

Losing right off the bat and allowing time for those adjustments won't help you feel better about it though.

This team is one of only a few that hasn't won in post-season in decades.

That's why it's surprising that people in this poll accept loss and still feel okay with it when most key positions have decent starters in place.

I could only see this if they aren't supporters of Dalton and don't think he can win despite coaching.

Then yes.  You can accept losing until Zac gets his QB and feel okay with it.

(06-06-2019, 05:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I don't recall anyone saying if Zac gets less than 8 wins, fire him. The OP asked what would make us happy for the future. If Zac takes a vet team that suffered major injuries in 2018 and had 6 wins and only wins 8 games, I would have serious concerns if Zac was the answer long term.

But, I would not suggest firing him after one year unless he won 3 or less games.

(06-07-2019, 10:21 AM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Logically there is doubt/gray area for a coach that has never been an NFL head coach anywhere.

This team is one of only a few that hasn't won in post-season in decades.

That's why it's surprising that people in this poll accept loss and still feel okay with it when most key positions have decent starters in place.

I could only see this if they aren't supporters of Dalton and don't think he can win despite coaching.

Then yes.  You can accept losing until Zac gets his QB and feel okay with it.

(06-09-2019, 09:56 PM)Destro Wrote: Depends more on effort versus wins, at least at this point, for me. That will change, sooner or later. We still have a division of the new darlings of the Browns, then the world primed for another Pig Ben miracle, with all his weapons gone he still prevails Steelers and RGIV in Baltimore. Who knows.

(06-09-2019, 10:22 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Juju is 22 and had 1418 yards receiving last year for the Steelers. They also had the #1 offensive line according to PFF and have James Connor at RB. I wouldn't say all of his weapons are gone.

Brown and Bell are big losses though, but huge drama in the lockerroom.

(06-09-2019, 10:22 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Juju is 22 and had 1418 yards receiving last year for the Steelers. They also had the #1 offensive line according to PFF and have James Connor at RB. I wouldn't say all of his weapons are gone.

Brown and Bell are big losses though, but huge drama in the lockerroom.

(06-09-2019, 10:39 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: They weathered the storm last year without Bell . Brown was the doubled the most. It remains to be seen is JUJU can keep up his production as the #1 wr. Can Conner stay healthy? The Steelers have as many questions as any team in the division. That being said they always seem to have someone step up when needed. Is it luck or the system?

(05-30-2019, 06:13 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ill take 7 wins and/or the evidence of actual development. Our coaching staff is doing a lot on learning on the job, so things might not be instantaneously glorious.

(10-17-2019, 08:52 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Crap, what was I thinking?