(09-23-2019, 10:19 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I do not like what I have seen from Herbert thus far...He stands tall in pocket but does not seem comfortable in pocket.  

(09-24-2019, 09:59 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: I would have hired that hot college chick that can kick field goals and replace phat Randy.

Then at least I could look forward to FGs every time we have the ball. Guys tend to mustard some extra testorone to help a lass. It would benefit our OL, ST and DL.

nounSCOTTISH•NORTHERN ENGLISH
noun: lass; plural noun: lasses
a young woman.
"he married a lass from Yorkshire"

(09-24-2019, 09:59 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: I would have hired that hot college chick that can kick field goals and replace phat Randy.

Then at least I could look forward to FGs every time we have the ball. Guys tend to mustard some extra testorone to help a lass. It would benefit our OL, ST and DL.

nounSCOTTISH•NORTHERN ENGLISH
noun: lass; plural noun: lasses
a young woman.
"he married a lass from Yorkshire"

(09-25-2019, 01:17 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I really don’t get the sudden fascination with trading/letting go of AJ Green.

We just saw a 33 year old WR win SB MVP last year, and Edelman has missed more games from injury than AJ has. Granted he makes a lot less money, but I don’t think AJ will get as much on his next deal as many here are suggesting.

And it’s obvious we need him to win games.

(09-25-2019, 01:27 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. AJ Green has the 11th highest salary among WRs in 2019, and that will only go up. Edelman ranks 36th.

2. The Pats are going for one more ring. The Bengals are in their 4th straight losing season.

(09-25-2019, 01:17 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I really don’t get the sudden fascination with trading/letting go of AJ Green.

We just saw a 33 year old WR win SB MVP last year, and Edelman has missed more games from injury than AJ has. Granted he makes a lot less money, but I don’t think AJ will get as much on his next deal as many here are suggesting.

And it’s obvious we need him to win games.

(09-25-2019, 01:41 AM)samhain Wrote: There are many moving parts to it.  Are we truly rebuilding after this season?  Are they serious about addressing issues on the defense and o-line?  

Andy and AJ both will eat a ton of cap space if they are re-signed long term.  Even individually.  This coupled with the Atkins and Dunlap deals make our cap spend largely invested in guys over 30 who are going to inevitably fall victim to time.  

We need linebackers, offensive linemen, and probably even a couple of upgrades in the secondary.  We also have guys like Billings and Jackson that will need to be re-signed soon.  

I don't see this team as one that's hurting for skill players on offense.  Dalton is still racking up yards without AJ.  Mixon and Gio are victims of an injured and talent-deficient line.  

What helps them move forward to building a winner?  A receiver that misses a ton of time lately, or an investment in the line/defense?  They've tried for 4 straight years to trot the same group out there.  It's failed miserably.  They aren't going anywhere sinking tons of cash into 30 year old hurt dudes when there are multiple major needs elsewhere.

Then there's the rinse/repeat Hobson articles that will ensue if he and Andy are re-signed that will surface in March when the time arrives to acquire personnel (for most teams, anyway). "Oh, we can't afford a real linebacker or guard because we backed a Brink's truck up to our future HOF WR and franchise QB". "We have some very good players and just got snakebit by injury". No. Something needs to change. If we spend a 3rd of our cap on the same guys that have been here since 2011 and gotten the same results since 2016, things aren't improving. We'll be right back where we are now next September. Huge extensions for Andy or AJ will all but guarantee more free agency apathy from the organization. it gives them the excuse they want to stock the team with bums and shitbag backfill again, just like this year.

(09-25-2019, 01:59 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Well, I’m absolutely against re-signing Dalton. Cut him after the season with no dead money, and draft a QB with a high pick. We’ll then have two QB’s on rookie contracts.

AJ I’d like to see brought back on a 3 year deal. I think he still has a few years of high level play left in him. The money saved on not re-signing him would never  be used to bring in outside FA’s of any quality anyway. We all know that damn well. Might as well give our next QB the best weapons we possibly can.

(09-23-2019, 04:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No doubt I'd do great, but I can't pass up the 'What's in your wallet" girl. I would give Eddie DeBartalo a hometown (small) discount.

(09-25-2019, 01:27 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. AJ Green has the 11th highest salary among WRs in 2019, and that will only go up. Edelman ranks 36th.

2. The Pats are going for one more ring. The Bengals are in their 4th straight losing season.

(09-25-2019, 02:24 AM)samhain Wrote: If Andy would take 22 mil or something similar, I may do it.  No way I offer 30.  

If we don't bring him back, I'm not sure what happens?  Does Finley play if we lose enough games this year?  is he any good?  Do we spend the high first rounder on a QB if Andrew Thomas or Jerry Jeudy are sitting there?  I'm developing a man-crush on Thomas.  Not to mention needs on the defense.  

If we get Tua/Fromm/Herbert, they're getting thrown to the wolves behind a bad line.  What's more advantageous?  Andy with an improved line, or new guy with trash line?  

(09-25-2019, 01:06 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'm late to this party, but...

1. Fire Tobin after this season and replace him with a GM who has actual power/say.
2. Build a practice facility to get the team up to modern standards.
3. Expand the scouting department, again to match up with modern standards.
4. Place a team HOF somewhere in PBS, to instill a sense of honor and pride.
5. Sign a #%&$-ing Tackle that is worth a #$@%
6. Trim a lot of fat like Andre Smith, Bobby Hart, Cordy Glenn, etc
7. Draft/sign some LB's
8. Draft a QB with the top pick and use the money saved to reshape this aging/decaying roster.
9. Let AJ Green walk. He'll be 32 and his injury list is getting extensive. Use money saved to reshape this aging/decaying roster.

(09-24-2019, 07:58 PM)TKUHL Wrote: That alone would put assets in the seats. We’re not getting the hype from  QB or any other position. Might as well make history and bring in the first woman to start on an NFL team. Need to find a real butch woman to play LB’r or OT.

(09-25-2019, 01:59 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Well, I’m absolutely against re-signing Dalton. Cut him after the season with no dead money, and draft a QB with a high pick. We’ll then have two QB’s on rookie contracts.

AJ I’d like to see brought back on a 3 year deal. I think he still has a few years of high level play left in him. The money saved on not re-signing him would never be used to bring in outside FA’s of any quality anyway. We all know that damn well. Might as well give our next QB the best weapons we possibly can.

(09-25-2019, 03:08 AM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Here is the thing it's not out of the possibility that the Bengals can turn it around next season & with the likely hood of a young QB coming in keeping AJ  makes a ton of sense. Remember Lucks rookie season? Well a 33 year old Reggie Wayne helped out a lot.

(09-25-2019, 08:11 AM)kevin Wrote: Your #1 makes sense.  They fired all the coaches but kept what is the GM without a GM title.   Tobin in role of GM needs flushed down the toilet and someone else put in that role.  Really, who the heck is Duke Tobin anyway.  Many of us wanted Marvin in this position and either Zimmer or Gruden kept to be Head Coach.   The Browns/ Ravens did will with ex Brown tight end Ozzie Newsome.   The Broncos have John Elway over things.  What do we have, Duke Tobin.  

I like that you have dumping Tobin as # 1 on your list.  He needs fired also. 

(09-25-2019, 05:54 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: This thread is about what we'd do if we were the owner, not what would Mikey do.


We have Tyler Boyd and John Ross. AJ has spent a lot more time hurt than Wayne did up to that point in his career.


Thanks. All of my points make sense though, even if some get all sentimental for certain players.

(09-25-2019, 05:56 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: You add AJ to Boyd & Ross you have the best WR Core in the league right?

(09-22-2019, 11:16 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Well, I don't see a fix to this season, but for better results:

1 ) I'd revamp the scouting department up to the league average. I'd basically look at the successful teams and copy what they do.
2 ) I'd fire Tobin and bring in the best available GM.
3 ) I would have hired Del Rio as DC. So in the offseason, fire Lou and bring Del Rio in.
4 ) I would use free agency more. Guys like Jordan Hicks and LJ Fort  at LB and Saffold at Guard would have really help us this year.
5 ) I'd see what guys like Green and Atkins could fetch in a trade. IF some team offered a couple high picks with one being a 1st for either, I'd strongly consider it.

Those are the main initial things.