(11-15-2019, 02:26 PM)Synric Wrote: I disagree. While Garrett and Pouncy were more violent in their attacks Mason Rudolph instigated most of it.

It started with a clean takedown by Garrett he got there as the ball was let go. A frustrated Rudolph tried to pull his helmet off on the ground which Garrett wiggled out of grabbed Mason then ripped his helmet off...It could have ended right there as David DeCastro separated the two but Rudolph got up charged Garrett grabbing at him. It was very unfortunate that Garrett still had ahold of the helmet because want he did next was dangerous but I believe it was also heat of the moment. After the hit Pouncy jumped in and repeatedly hit Garrett in the head all the way to the ground stood up kicked him in the head then went back to the ground to get in one more punch.

All 3 of those guys deserve a suspension as that's not how a professional and role model should act. The only one that deserves any praise in that situation was David DeCastro. I think DeCasteo is a nasty player between the whistles but he looked very professional in that horrible situation.

(11-15-2019, 01:50 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: Really don't care what you or any other Squealers fan think of me. Everyone knows your team and your fan base are the biggest offenders and cry babies when it comes to dirty play. Keep crying it does the rest of the league good to see you suffer.

(11-15-2019, 02:04 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: Two on one = all is fair.  If this went to court Garrett would be justified by self defense and Rudolph would be charged and convicted. Garrett was backing away and Rudolph lunged repeatedly at him. The helmet was an equalizer. FREE GARRETT!!!!!!

(11-15-2019, 02:10 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: after watching the incident

The leagues suspension without pay is the right call...  Pouncy as well for kicking garrett on the head after should be suspended..    Nothing Rudolph did was worth more than a fine.

(11-15-2019, 02:37 PM)jason Wrote: Well Rudolph didn't get fined... Because nothing he did crossed any lines. Everything about that incident was normal, and occurs in several games a year, if not weekly. Swingin' a man's helmet at his exposed head was where things got out of line. I've already said it... Mason Rudolph could have been killed , or his life forever changed by that. Nothing leading up to that act matters.

(11-15-2019, 02:49 PM)6andcounting Wrote: It's something a ******** 3 years old would say to excuse themselves, but better yet it's not even true. It was started with Garrett's late hit and unnecessarily pulling Rudolph to the ground. 

(11-15-2019, 02:59 PM)Millhouse Wrote: IF anything, Rudolph should see a minor fine, nothing more though (again IF anything). After watching entire play a few times, it looked like he was pissed he was tackled the way he was after he threw the ball, plus it was a meaningless last play of the game. Who wouldn't get po'd for that?

The other suspensions and fines, mainly Garret's, is what should happen.

(11-15-2019, 03:17 PM)Destro Wrote: Steelers have actually injured players. Not saying Garrett has in the right, but outrage should be just as strong for dirty hits that take people out.

(11-15-2019, 04:28 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: I do believe Rudolph should be fined for grabbing at garrets helmet but he didn't pull it off he didn't throw any punches that I saw... or anything suspension worthy.

(11-15-2019, 03:55 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Right. So you have no problem with what Garrett did, since that ***** Rudolph tried, and got it half way off, to rip Garrett's helmet off. Garrett was just retaliating, so, no punishment, right?

What a stupid ***** thing for you to say. 

(11-15-2019, 04:43 PM)6andcounting Wrote: And the Browns didn't injury 2 Steelers already that game with dirty hits?

(11-15-2019, 04:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote:  He didn't know if he had the ball or not. 

(11-15-2019, 04:06 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: My how clever you are. It's almost as if that's the only word we can expect you to know since you're a guy who cheered for two rapists and this guy...

(11-15-2019, 04:45 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Tossed a few kicks, but I still want to know what the moron was thinking without a helmet and running over to get into the face of the guy you were just trying to hurt when he is being held back by another team mate.... let that shit go son.... instead, you go start something and caught a helmet to the head for your trouble.

(11-15-2019, 04:50 PM)6andcounting Wrote: This doesn't negate an action as a penalty. This also just means Garrett needs to keep his head up. 

(11-15-2019, 04:54 PM)jason Wrote: Because there is an unwritten and unsaid code that they aren't going to tear someone's helmet off and hit them with it... That's why Garrett is completely in the wrong here, and why the Steelers went apeshit when it happened.

(11-15-2019, 05:02 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I agree Garrett is wrong and deserves the suspension but I'll say it over and over, if Rudolph doesn't act like a punk in the pile and pull on Garrett's helmet and then charge after his was removed, nothing happens.

Every other instance in the history of the NFL when a guy loses his helmet, he gets the hell away from the pile and the fight, you don't see them charge the guy and try to escalate it.

Also, that unwritten rule was gone after Pacman slammed Amari Cooper into his own helmet after removing it....

(11-15-2019, 05:08 PM)jason Wrote: Brian Cushing headbutted a dude wearing a helmet when his was torn off. Jeremy Shockey continued running through defenders once his helmet was knocked off. We all remember Whitworth throwing a Jaguar's helmet after pulling it off. Guys fight sometimes in the NFL. What position they play is irrelevant Garrett still had it in his hand, and for all we know was gonna hit DeCastro with it... Doesn't matter what led up to it, he was way over the line.