(04-20-2020, 12:08 PM)bengals67 Wrote: It has to be a linebacker or offensive lineman at 2.

If they draft a linebacker they really need to sign Jason Peters to a one year contract or work out a deal for someone like Thuney.

I don't want Burrow to have his career wrecked in his first year like David Carr.

I love what they did in free agency on defense but our offensive line is still awful.  I don't buy the argument that stats show that Hart is good and our guards are not good.

(04-20-2020, 12:08 PM)bengals67 Wrote: It has to be a linebacker or offensive lineman at 2.

If they draft a linebacker they really need to sign Jason Peters to a one year contract or work out a deal for someone like Thuney.

I don't want Burrow to have his career wrecked in his first year like David Carr.

I love what they did in free agency on defense but our offensive line is still awful.  I don't buy the argument that stats show that Hart is good and our guards are not good.

(04-21-2020, 08:29 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Williams is a massive upgrade over what started and plodded along at LT a year ago.
Michael Jordan at the end of the year looked like a different player than the rookie that started...scheme change helped, too.
Hopkins is an upper tier center
We don't know much about XSF, but the Bengals liked what they saw in his limited action and he did it against what they considered to be top competition
Bobby Hart is far from great, but he IS ascending.  Doesn't mean he is good.  It means he has improved year over year.  He is STILL just 25.  Perhaps more than Hart, we should be excited about Johnson who came in and did really well at LT.  He will compete with Hart and could push him out of a job if he isn't getting it done.

I am not trying to say they are the best line in the league, but they are nowhere near what the Texans had that destroyed Carr.  And Burrow is VERY mobile.  It is kind of funny how many offensive lines are probably ranked better than they are (at least in terms of sacks) because they have an elusive QB.

This team is dead in the water if AJ Green goes down again.  They need to draft his potential replacement and a guy like Mims or Claypool in Rd 2 could do that.  

(04-21-2020, 10:33 AM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: Agree 100% in regards to being dead in the water if Aj goes down.  Which is why I get frustrated seeing people mock guys like Reagor Jefferson shenault etc.  those are not replacements for Aj.  They are not number 1 wide receivers.  They are number twos slot and gadget type players which imo is a wasted pick.  Why at all if ur gonna draft a wide receiver would u donit and not resolve your soon to be injury prone 32 year old receiver.  If they do decide to go wide receiver in the second which I hope they don’t but f they do imo they should only go Either Mims, Higgins, or Claypool.

(04-12-2020, 11:24 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If Mims were truly "a next AJ Green" type of player, wouldn't you think that he'd be listed as going top 5, or at least top 10 overall?  But, he's not.  The reason why?  AJ Green had an NFL rating of 7.5, while Mims is a 6.33.  Why the disparity in NFL ratings?  Because Mims played in a no-defense conference, and AJ Green was a human highlight reel in the toughest football conference in the Nation, despite running 0.12 seconds slower..

(04-21-2020, 10:33 AM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: Agree 100% in regards to being dead in the water if Aj goes down.  Which is why I get frustrated seeing people mock guys like Reagor Jefferson shenault etc.  those are not replacements for Aj.  They are not number 1 wide receivers.  They are number twos slot and gadget type players which imo is a wasted pick.  Why at all if ur gonna draft a wide receiver would u donit and not resolve your soon to be injury prone 32 year old receiver.  If they do decide to go wide receiver in the second which I hope they don’t but f they do imo they should only go Either Mims, Higgins, or Claypool.

(04-21-2020, 12:32 PM)ShowMeUrTDs Wrote: Mims also has the highest drop percentage out of the top ten ranked WR’s.

(04-21-2020, 12:55 PM)Synric Wrote: Height doesn't make an X receiver like AJ Green it's the ability to beat press coverage. Laviska Shenault played the X in college the same position Green...The same position as Antonio Brown and Odell Beckham.

I get people are worried about his injury history but Shenault if he stays healthy he is a top end receiver that's why he was being mocked top 20 until the offseason groin surgery.

(04-19-2020, 03:28 AM)BURROWorBUST Wrote: OK, I've finally landed on "a guy."

Jalen Reagor

I'd be perfectly fine with Baun or Josh Jones or even a few other players.

I'd prefer Reagor for a few reasons. At the top of that list is how much he reminds me of Ja'Marr Chase. He's 2 inches shorter, but the high point of his jump looks to be better than Chase's. He's also quicker, and he looks - to my old eyes anyway- faster, much faster. He's also great on back shoulder throws. He can also return punts and kicks. He's had a good number of returns for TDs at TCU.

So, he's a better version of Ja'Marr Chase, which should help make Burrow feel somewhat more at home maybe.

I also chose a WR because of value. I know that the value of an OT is comparable to that of a WR, but I think there are some pretty decent OTs we can get later. I know this is a deep WR class, but Reagor is one of the top 5 in that class. We've spent alot of money improving the defense. We need to infuse some talent into the offense. If one of the OTs who is supposed to go in the 1st winds up falling to us, I'd probably take that guy over Reagor. But I think that's pretty unlikely. We'll see.

NOTE: Reagor tried bulking up for the combine, adding 11 pounds.That slowed his 40 time to 4:47. He went back to Texas, dropped some of that weight and ran a 4.22 and  4.28. I wouldn't mind having him and Ross on the field at the same time with Boyd and AJ. WTF is a defense going to do? Play 7 cbs?

(04-19-2020, 06:34 PM)BURROWorBUST Wrote: That's the same reason I wouldn't be shocked or even too upset if we took Antonio Winfield Jr. Taking a safety with coverage skill and ball hawking ability might do more to improve our overall defense than reaching for a LB. I still think we should draft at least one LB, but not necessarily at 33, and we have to be careful to address the issues on offense, too. 

(04-20-2020, 02:06 AM)psychdoctor Wrote: I like Antonio Gibson RB from Memphis.  He is big, fast, and can play WR.   A rare athlete.

(04-22-2020, 08:14 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: I’ve narrow it down to my ideal round two scenario is a trade back pick up another third or 4th and select  jordyn brooks unless Kenneth Murray falls to us then I’d take him.  I just want linebacker finally for the love of god taken care of.

(04-22-2020, 08:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Winfield Jr is a player, just think with adding Vonn Bell it is not as big of a need at this time.



Good one, where do you think he might go in the Draft Psych?

(04-22-2020, 10:31 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: round 4-5
another guy that may fit better is AJ Dillon.  

(04-21-2020, 12:55 PM)Synric Wrote: Height doesn't make an X receiver like AJ Green it's the ability to beat press coverage. Laviska Shenault played the X in college the same position Green...The same position as Antonio Brown and Odell Beckham.

I get people are worried about his injury history but Shenault if he stays healthy he is a top end receiver that's why he was being mocked top 20 until the offseason groin surgery.

(04-22-2020, 08:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Will still need a Linebacker that can cover, love how Brooks tackles though that is for sure.

(04-13-2020, 02:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hard to narrow it down to one dude. I like Dugger and I like Chinn maybe even better if we go Safety/LB.

I think if I had to go with one guy it would be Claypool, dude is big and fast, reminds me of Mike Evans and dare I say
Michael Thomas? Think this guy could be good to great in the future and maybe could replace AJ so this would be my 
guy. As far as mid round Linebackers I like Logan Wilson or Davis-Gaither.

(04-13-2020, 04:42 PM)BobJones4980 Wrote: The more I see of Logan Wilson the more I like, I honestly would not be upset if we ended up with ADG or Wilson or hell, both.