(08-20-2020, 04:45 PM)odysseus32 Wrote: So, I think this is where the two camps on Burrow diverge.  I had MANY arguments with people on TigerDroppings during the off-season between 2018 and 2019 that Burrow was in fact a very good QB.  I predicted that he would throw for 3500 and 30 TDs in 2019.  I slotted him as, I think, the 3rd best SEC QB behind Tua and Fromm.  My personal thoughts were that it was evident that he can manage and take over a game.  He did it against Auburn, UGA, Texas A&M (in losing fashion), and UCF.  There were many instances in 2018 where you saw that he had it, he was just in a new offense.  I was drooling waiting to see him with a full off-season with his WRs under his belt, as well as a year+ in the same environment.  I had no clue he was going to do what he did last season, but to say that nobody thought he was good before 2019 is false.  A handful of us over on Tigerdroppings knew he was good, we just didn't understand just how unshakable he would be when put in the right situations.

But I can understand how people get the impression that he was average in 2018, because statistically he was.  But his on the field play week in and week out told an entirely different story.

(08-20-2020, 04:03 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I agree with everything you say.

The problem with most of the people around here is that they never even heard of Burrow before 2019.  But, like you, I saw him play in 2018.  No one was raving about his superhuman swagger back then.

(08-20-2020, 05:39 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yeah, that's rough but true.  I will say I have faith in his ability to keep his head up when the going gets tough...and the going tends to get tough any time you lace 'em up in Cincy in the past 30 years.

(08-20-2020, 05:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Everything comes to an end...

(08-20-2020, 05:52 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Unless you play in Cleveland or Detroit, I guess.  Here's hoping we can shake things easier than them.

(08-20-2020, 04:14 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But I am worried that the "things that changed" at LSU were more about Joe Brady more than Burrow.

(08-20-2020, 04:45 PM)odysseus32 Wrote: So, I think this is where the two camps on Burrow diverge.  I had MANY arguments with people on TigerDroppings during the off-season between 2018 and 2019 that Burrow was in fact a very good QB.  I predicted that he would throw for 3500 and 30 TDs in 2019.  I slotted him as, I think, the 3rd best SEC QB behind Tua and Fromm.  My personal thoughts were that it was evident that he can manage and take over a game.  He did it against Auburn, UGA, Texas A&M (in losing fashion), and UCF.  There were many instances in 2018 where you saw that he had it, he was just in a new offense.  I was drooling waiting to see him with a full off-season with his WRs under his belt, as well as a year+ in the same environment.  I had no clue he was going to do what he did last season, but to say that nobody thought he was good before 2019 is false.  A handful of us over on Tigerdroppings knew he was good, we just didn't understand just how unshakable he would be when put in the right situations.

But I can understand how people get the impression that he was average in 2018, because statistically he was.  But his on the field play week in and week out told an entirely different story.

(08-20-2020, 04:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Tiger droppings? Lol

(08-20-2020, 05:39 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yeah, that's rough but true.  I will say I have faith in his ability to keep his head up when the going gets tough...and the going tends to get tough any time you lace 'em up in Cincy in the past 30 years.

(08-20-2020, 05:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Everything comes to an end...

(08-20-2020, 05:23 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I like you.

(08-20-2020, 06:28 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Ensminger is the brains behind that operation, not Brady; only people who don't watch LSU aren't aware of this.


I don't have any college affiliation, being born and raised in Canada and all, but Andrew Whitworth is my favourite player ever, so I've been an LSU mark since about 2009 or so.

I wanted Burrow on this team after 2018, badly; I was fully expecting him to be available in the 3rd round, as (like we all know) his stats were not eye-popping, but man, his poise was already off the charts in that UCF game and that was the game that convinced me that he was the QB for me.

And now we have him, hell yes


lol it's an LSU news site.

(08-20-2020, 07:11 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Did you watch the most recent episode of Hard Knocks? Whit was featured a lot. They even showed old Bengals footage of him and Chad.

(08-20-2020, 06:50 PM)odysseus32 Wrote: Thanks, man.  I like you too.

This place seems cool.  I was really hesitant to even search out a Bengals board considering most forums are graveyards at this point, but I am glad I did.  I need to get more familiar with the roster, although I am sure that will come week by week.

(08-20-2020, 06:50 PM)odysseus32 Wrote: Thanks, man.  I like you too.

This place seems cool.  I was really hesitant to even search out a Bengals board considering most forums are graveyards at this point, but I am glad I did.  I need to get more familiar with the roster, although I am sure that will come week by week.

(08-20-2020, 05:14 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Right but other teams have matched those numbers.

OSU had 14 total in 2004

OSU had 10 in the first 3 rounds in 2016

Neither time did the Buckeys even win the championship, let alone set the record books on fire like Burrow did. It’s almost like being on a stacked team doesn’t guarantee anything...

(08-20-2020, 06:36 PM)fredtoast Wrote: When Chuck Knoll took the Steelers to the playoffs in 1972 it was their first winning season in 9 years and only the 8th winning season in the team's 40 year history. 

Anything can happen

(08-20-2020, 06:50 PM)odysseus32 Wrote: Thanks, man.  I like you too.

This place seems cool.  I was really hesitant to even search out a Bengals board considering most forums are graveyards at this point, but I am glad I did.  I need to get more familiar with the roster, although I am sure that will come week by week.

(08-20-2020, 06:28 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Ensminger is the brains behind that operation, not Brady; only people who don't watch LSU aren't aware of this.

(08-20-2020, 09:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Ensminger was there in 2018 when the offense was nothing special.

Ensmminger is still there while Brady got a job in the NFL.

Only people who don't watch LSU aren't aware of this.

(08-20-2020, 09:49 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: In the two seasons you just mentioned the Buckeyes were ranked 4th nationally... both times. They went a combined 23-3 including winning both of the Fiesta Bowls they played in.

Being on a stacked team absolutely guarantees something.

(08-20-2020, 11:28 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: See, I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt, because you admittedly don't know a lot about LSU football, but of course, you have to add snark (and you didn't even do that properly). Typical.

(08-21-2020, 12:28 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I am not an LSU fan, but I am a big SEC fan so I know a good bit about LSU.  I was not familiar with the exact numbers, but i know that for years LSU was mainly a run first offense.  They did start throwing more in 2018 when Ensminger arrived, but they were not that good.  They only had 17 passing tds in 2018. And according to the stats you posted their total offense numbers actually dropped in yards per game from 2017 to 2018. 

But when Brady showed up in 2019 their QB had one of the greatest seasons in college football history.  And I have a strong feeling they are going to drop back down to about the 2018 level next year.