(09-27-2020, 11:40 PM)samhain Wrote: I hate to be reactionary, but I agree.  These guys are second rate.  Taylor rode McVey's coattails and the trend of hiring young qb-centric HC's.  Hiring him alone wasn't the worst thing in the world, but not giving him a proven, experienced staff was a big mistake.  McVey had Wade Phillips, a defensive genius and ex-HC to help him carry the weight of being a young HC.  Zac picked/was given Anarumo and Callahan.  Anarumo had done nothing of note in the league, and Callahan won with Peyton Manning, then went to Oakland to be average.  They were Zac's buddies.  I'd love to work with all of my best friends, but it likely wouldn't be optimal for productivity.  

Best case scenario if things continue down this road IMO is that we hire Joe Brady from Carolina in the offseason.  Brady is another inexperienced guy HC wise, but he's got a great rapport with the most important guy in the organization.  The other part of the scenario is Mike Zimmer being out in Minnesota.  Get him to be the DC and carry some weight for Brady.  Make it so.

My hope is that Burrow has the ear of ownership and gets a wide berth in voicing his views of what needs to be changed. He's already looking like a franchise savior even as he gets his brains beaten out every week.

(09-28-2020, 12:17 AM)WestCoastBengalsFan Wrote: Bold made me lol hard, nicely played sir.

(09-27-2020, 09:46 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Troy and Katie have actually been instrumental in the last 2 head coaches being hired. They wanted Marvin and Zac...and got both.

(09-27-2020, 06:07 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: This dude is so far in over his head, and underqualified it's actually unbelievable.

I honestly don't think he could get an OC job at a top 100 college right now.  And he's currently pulling double duty as HC and OC for an NFL team.

The faster this turd sandwich is outta here the better.  What a freaking awful hire.  Clown show from a scheme and playcalling standpoint.

(09-27-2020, 06:07 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: This dude is so far in over his head, and underqualified it's actually unbelievable.

I honestly don't think he could get an OC job at a top 100 college right now.  And he's currently pulling double duty as HC and OC for an NFL team.

The faster this turd sandwich is outta here the better.  What a freaking awful hire.  Clown show from a scheme and playcalling standpoint.

(09-27-2020, 06:34 PM)Brimey Wrote: It became disturbing watching Burrow being mauled. The staff, and front office LUCKED into being bad enough to draft a kid who's a winner. Everything about this kid screams poise and hunger to be the best. And they trot out a terrible offensive line and a pitiful staff.

Rooting for Joe Burrow to succeed long term in Cincinnati, means rooting for the staff to be cleaning out (minus Simmons).

(09-27-2020, 11:21 PM)Skink4Prez Wrote: Wes Mantooth




I would lay all the blame there as well. Interesting anecdote...well I think it is interesting since it is mine...but it has to do with Katie as well as the hiring of Zac Taylor. My physician was a team doctor years ago, and I happened to be getting my annual physical with him in 2019 right at the time where Marvin was let go and Zac hadn't been hired yet. I asked him if he had any insight into who they might hire, and his answer was "The cheapest one." 

So as we continued talking, I told him I notice a lot of people on message boards and some of my friends hope that things will change when Katie takes over completely and Mike is out of the picture. I expressed my doubts that anything will change with her and He totally agreed. He said her and Mike are nice people, but everything is done on the cheap and Katie is her dad's daughter. 

As an example, he then tells me the story of one year working the draft combine. He tells me, "It's long boring days for the team doctors, and one of his colleagues went back to the hotel at the end of the day and dialed up a movie in his room...Not a porn movie, just a movie. Well a month later, this guy gets a bill from Katie for $6.99 or whatever the movie cost. Dude quit right then."

That convinced me that nothing is going to change until the team is sold to another owner. I really hope I am wrong and the spending this offseason is an indication of future dealings, but as he said, they hired the cheapest candidate and the cycle continues. I was as excited to see Burrow this year as I have been in any year which goes back to the Super Bowl years, but the way they blew off the line and then seeing how poorly they have played so far makes me think his talents will go to waste unless they decide to spend money on the staff and players he needs to support winning. 

(09-28-2020, 01:21 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: Not a bad idea, the Brady part, doubt Zim is leaving Minnesota so soon. Brady at least has had success as a coordinator, ZT was never even a good coordinator. Terrible with the Dolphins, terrible with the Bearcats.

(10-03-2020, 01:17 AM)samhain Wrote: I know some Vikings fans, and none of them want Zimmer out.  They blame the Cousins deal for their problems.  I wonder if their management shares that sentiment.