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RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - bfine32 - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:34 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: See if you can notice any differences in Seattle’s defensive scheme and ours... Sounds like they used him as a situational pass rusher. Of course Carlos is going to make it not be any of his fault. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Nicomo Cosca - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Sounds like they used him as a situational pass rusher. Ok. I can see why you’d give an accomplished coach like Lou the benefit over a scrub like Carlos Dunlap. Especially since no other players on that defense had issues with him. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Synric - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:39 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ok. I can see why you’d give an accomplished coach like Lou the benefit over a scrub like Carlos Dunlap. Especially since no other players on that defense had issues with him. Carlos Dunlap had one of the best years of his career in 2019 in Lou Anarumo's defense people tend to forget that part. The scheme wasn't the issue. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - bengalfan74 - 02-03-2021 If Sewell and Chase are both gone when we draft I'd take Pitts over Parsons and it's not even a debate IMHO. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Nicomo Cosca - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:43 PM)Synric Wrote: Carlos Dunlap had one of the best years of his career in 2019 in Lou Anarumo's defense people tend to forget that part. The scheme wasn't the issue. Fair enough. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Big_Ern - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 12:09 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Right, in response to you pointing out our former impact players on defense that played with Burfict were no longer effective. But Dunlap was again once he started being used properly. Yep, after he went to a defense with leaders and alphas. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Nicomo Cosca - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 02:12 PM)Big_Ern Wrote: Yep, after he went to a defense with leaders and alphas. So are Bates and Bell bums now? The former is arguably the best safety in the league (pretty alpha, no?), and the latter earned captain his first season here. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Gdale_Bengal - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As a situational pass rusher. Something we wanted to do with Carlos, but he kept crying about depth chart Dunlop was a douche bag. Always has been. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - rfaulk34 - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As a situational pass rusher. Something we wanted to do with Carlos, but he kept crying about depth chart Snaps per game were the same, 40 per. Production was way different. 1.9 pressures per game with Cincy. 3.4 pressures per game with Seattle. 1 total sack with Cincy. 7 sacks with Seattle. To me, that screams scheme. Pretty impossible to say the Bengals coaches don't have egg on their faces, and they certainly could have used that type of production considering the guys that tried to fill his shoes and failed. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Big_Ern - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 02:35 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: So are Bates and Bell bums now? The former is arguably the best safety in the league (pretty alpha, no?), and the latter earned captain his first season here. Ha, no one is feeding off their energy nor are they intimidating. Being a great ball Hawking safety is awesome, but an alpha)fiery leader that others feed off of...well I'm not seeing that. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Whatever - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 05:05 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Snaps per game were the same, 40 per. To me that screams unmotivated veteran with only a couple of years left in the league forcing his way off a rebuilding team and playing hard when he lands on a SB contender. I'm not saying are coaches are great, but I don't know a lot of schemes that will allow a guy to put up numbers if he doesn't play hard, at least at the NFL level. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - ochocincos - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 02:35 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: So are Bates and Bell bums now? The former is arguably the best safety in the league (pretty alpha, no?), and the latter earned captain his first season here. You can be a good producer, but being an alpha is about leading and setting the tone. AJ Green is someone who produced a ton but I don't know how many would call him an alpha. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - bfine32 - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 05:05 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Snaps per game were the same, 40 per. Yes, they employed him the same as we did. But for some reason he cried about it here. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - ochocincos - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 05:34 PM)Whatever Wrote: To me that screams unmotivated veteran with only a couple of years left in the league forcing his way off a rebuilding team and playing hard when he lands on a SB contender. Dunlap probably saw the writing on the wall after this year started off so poorly. If his goal was to get to a Super Bowl or at least go deep in the postseason before he retires, he may not have seen that being likely if he stayed a Bengal through 2022. As such, he forced his way out to try to get closer to what he wanted. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - rfaulk34 - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 05:34 PM)Whatever Wrote: To me that screams unmotivated veteran with only a couple of years left in the league forcing his way off a rebuilding team and playing hard when he lands on a SB contender. Could be. But why now, after 4 straight years of losing and getting a QB like Burrow with the prospects of the team improving? Seems like a weird time to tank unless something changes and you're asked to do something you haven't done, with less snaps thrown on top. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - rfaulk34 - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 05:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yes, they employed him the same as we did. But for some reason he cried about it here. Kind of hard to say that to a certainty unless you know what the Bengals asked him to do on a snap by snap basis, compared to what the Seahawks asked. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Whatever - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 06:34 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Could be. But why now, after 4 straight years of losing and getting a QB like Burrow with the prospects of the team improving? Rumor was he was in danger of getting cut last year for a poor attitude and lack of effort. Iirc, he started the year slow and then turned it on the second half of the year. My guess is that he has a certain loyalty to Marvin after playing for him for so long that he doesn't have with Taylor and company. His snaps were cut because the effort wasn't there. Street FA's were coming in and outperforming him. Even AJ Hawk said that Dunlap plays hard when he feels like it. He's had motivational and effort issues going back to college. RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Essex Johnson - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 01:39 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ok. I can see why you’d give an accomplished coach like Lou the benefit over a scrub like Carlos Dunlap. Especially since no other players on that defense had issues with him. Facts don't support your somewhat juggled statement on Lou and Dunlap: in 2019 Dunlap had recorded 9 sacks which were his 3rd best in his career and had his 2nd best combo tackles in 2019... RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - Essex Johnson - 02-03-2021 (02-02-2021, 10:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Parsons character concerns are just too much of a red flag. Add that to stack LB not being as much of an impact as the other BPA that will be there and it’s not even a question. They aren’t taking him.He had an incident what two years ago.. , a fight between players.. wow that is so unheard of ? and the character issue in that fight was the other player.. what the hell, bring a weapon to a team session... Please tell me you have more than just that RE: Pitts in, Parsons out - rfaulk34 - 02-03-2021 (02-03-2021, 07:55 PM)Whatever Wrote: Rumor was he was in danger of getting cut last year for a poor attitude and lack of effort. Iirc, he started the year slow and then turned it on the second half of the year. Oh, there were never any doubts about his lack of effort. Marv saw that at the beginning and it's the reason he didn't get on the field in the beginning. Anyway...i'm over it. |