(03-21-2021, 04:16 PM)Destro Wrote: Which is to say mistakes are still being made. Maybe too soon or bad luck, but results are still: Bengals suck.

(03-21-2021, 06:03 PM)JWW1971 Wrote: Well why don't we just all give up. stop supporting the team and start watching Captain Caveman instead!!!!
I've watched the team since '84 and believe they will get back to that again, I've also yet to meet a person that has never made a mistake.

(03-21-2021, 06:08 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You seem suspiciously optimistic for someone who has been a Bengals fan for 37 years.

(03-21-2021, 06:55 PM)JWW1971 Wrote: Yeah I am Nate, just got a very good feeling about the team going forward

(03-21-2021, 06:03 PM)JWW1971 Wrote: Well why don't we just all give up. stop supporting the team and start watching Captain Caveman instead!!!!
I've watched the team since '84 and believe they will get back to that again, I've also yet to meet a person that has never made a mistake.

(03-21-2021, 06:03 PM)JWW1971 Wrote:
Well why don't we just all give up. stop supporting the team and start watching Captain Caveman instead!!!!
I've watched the team since '84 and believe they will get back to that again, I've also yet to meet a person that has never made a mistake.

(03-21-2021, 08:03 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: What's wrong with watching Captain Caveman?!?  Why can't we do both?!?!?

(03-21-2021, 06:03 PM)JWW1971 Wrote: Well why don't we just all give up. stop supporting the team and start watching Captain Caveman instead!!!!
I've watched the team since '84 and believe they will get back to that again, I've also yet to meet a person that has never made a mistake.

(03-21-2021, 08:03 PM)Destro Wrote: As long as me. I was a huge Boomer fan. It isn't about giving up, it is of expecting more. Going through the popular, developmental years in the '90's as a Bengals fan, it was rough to be a Bengals fan in school. I feel I have seen enough bad football to know it when I see it. The Bengals continue to do that. 

A person who never made a mistake? "A" mistake. Unless you are just taking about Paul Brown's rhythm method, this has never been about a single mistake. This is systemic. 

(03-21-2021, 10:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Love the optimism, I cannot live any way different myself. It hasn't been good to say the least with Zac and Lou yet but we 
all know the story is not written yet if this was a good move or not. Zac is young and Lou is only in his 3rd year as a DC and
Lou's side of the ball has been decimated by injuries and yet his Secondary has performed well.

Love the FA the last couple of years and love adding Pollack and Hobby this Offseason. The Draft was also great last year for
us in my opinion. Things are not all bad, we have Burrow, improved some coaches, the OL and added a couple good DL.

I have watched this team since 88-89 but I remain optimistic especially if we protect our new QB and get the D back on track.

Don't like to be ran on and don't like not getting after the passer. If we can stay healthy I think we could be more than good.

We have made good moves in the last couple years. If the coaching improves the sky is the limit.

(03-22-2021, 05:47 PM)TJ528 Wrote: Nate come on...Lou's ONLY in his 3rd year? Really? that's the best excuse you have for Lou?  I mean he's had 2 season with good personnel.  It's okay to admit we have a shitty DC.  lol  It's kinda like when we had Turner as an OL coach it's okay to admit he was a shitty line coach.   We'll see if Pollack can turn the crap we have on the OL into something better than Turner did.  

Not being negative but I don't think this defense will still be good.  I think it has good personnel but a bad coach and that falls on Zac.  

If the Bengals are to go 9-8 this year like I honestly think will be the best they will be then Burrow will have a banner year and out score teams.  

If this team has another year of injuries like they've had for the past 2 years, then this team is more likely to be 5-12 or 4-13 because of the schedule.  

(03-22-2021, 06:07 PM)Joelist Wrote: I think Anuramo's a crap DC but the reality is last season the D was basically playing second string especially on the DL. And the total lack of pressure from the DL undid the secondary.

I still don't like Lou and his brain dead "hybrid" which denies the D any way to establish an identity and is also a terrible formation for linebackers to grow and excel in. But I also can admit he was missing a LOT of horses last season.

(03-22-2021, 06:18 PM)Synric Wrote: It's the same scheme as Baltimore and New Orleans. Hybrid 34 front that plays a ton of 425 with a stand up edge.

(03-21-2021, 08:03 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: What's wrong with watching Captain Caveman?!? 

(03-22-2021, 06:07 PM)Joelist Wrote: I think Anuramo's a crap DC but the reality is last season the D was basically playing second string especially on the DL. And the total lack of pressure from the DL undid the secondary.

I still don't like Lou and his brain dead "hybrid" which denies the D any way to establish an identity and is also a terrible formation for linebackers to grow and excel in. But I also can admit he was missing a LOT of horses last season.

(03-22-2021, 07:49 PM)TJ528 Wrote: It maybe tge same scheme as Baltimore runs but I guarantee they have a better DC in Matindale coaching it.  I agree we were missing a lot of guys last year but again if we have any injuries again this year, and we likely will, we have 0 depth behind our starters. 

(03-22-2021, 05:47 PM)TJ528 Wrote: Nate come on...Lou's ONLY in his 3rd year? Really? that's the best excuse you have for Lou?  I mean he's had 2 season with good personnel.  It's okay to admit we have a shitty DC.  lol  It's kinda like when we had Turner as an OL coach it's okay to admit he was a shitty line coach.   We'll see if Pollack can turn the crap we have on the OL into something better than Turner did.  

Not being negative but I don't think this defense will still be good.  I think it has good personnel but a bad coach and that falls on Zac.  

If the Bengals are to go 9-8 this year like I honestly think will be the best they will be then Burrow will have a banner year and out score teams.  

If this team has another year of injuries like they've had for the past 2 years, then this team is more likely to be 5-12 or 4-13 because of the schedule.  

(03-23-2021, 01:59 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Cannot disagree. Lou has been a shit coach so far but he did have a ton of injuries on his side of the ball last year.

Not making excuses just saying when you get decimated THAT badly it would affect any DC in a negative way.

(03-23-2021, 05:37 PM)TJ528 Wrote: i respect that.  He has absolutely 0 built in excuses for his defense to suck now.  The Bengals have basically spent $100 million on that side of the ball so it better be respectable.  Meaning giving up 15-20 ppg, not 25-28ppg.   

My only problem so far in free agency is there's been 0 being brought for Burrow as far as OL and weapons.  

You can only draft so many day 1 starters.   

I like they brought back Spain.  I think he can be serviceable, not good but serviceable lol Better than Jordan lets put it that way. 

We'll see what else they do during free agency.  My guess is now that we have Reiff and Spain you might as well say Slater nor Sewell are going to be picked at #5...Your going to see Chase or the TE.   Are they good enough to make an instant impact?  We'll see i guess.