(05-02-2021, 06:45 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: For Team Sewell,

Remove your Sewell stuff from the forum signature options. He's a Lion.

(05-02-2021, 08:00 PM)BengalFanInCanada Wrote: You could have traded back in hindsight.  Marshall fell due to potential chronic injury concerns. I think you are assuming he is 100% healthy.  I doubt the Bengals could have taken that chance.

There is a reason he fell so far.

(05-02-2021, 11:34 PM)Beaker Wrote: Except that they werent scrap heap picks. The O line would not have been fixed with one OT. By converting the second pick into a G, a DT, and an OT they did much more to fix the problems than just picking Sewell first. Plus they got the best WR. Much smarter the way they actually did it.

(05-03-2021, 09:23 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yeah I'll do that at my own leisure, not yours. 

(05-03-2021, 10:14 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: You do you, my man.

(05-03-2021, 09:23 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yeah I'll do that at my own leisure, not yours. 


Not hindsight when I said he'd be available in the 2nd before the draft.

Also, Carman has his own health concerns. Why are we assuming worst case for Marshall and best case for Carman?

Lets at least try to be fair here. Most outlets had Marshall going in the 2nd before the injury thing.


The 2nd rounder wasn't "scrap heap", but I consider anything in rounds 4-6 to essentially be throwaway picks (or slightly above that, with the 4th). Most of them don't amount to much. So my analogy holds true. Whether it was "smarter" or not is subjective. Obviously.

If you really think we prioritized line over WR...man...I kinda wish we would've prioritized WR instead.

(05-03-2021, 12:16 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Chase needs to be HoF level to make the other half forget... or Sewell just needs to totally bust.

(05-04-2021, 02:06 AM)Bengalholic Wrote: If that's the only criteria that would make a certain segment happy...then that's damn sad.

What if neither is a Hall of Famer or a bust...but just have really good careers and play major roles on their teams?

(05-02-2021, 02:10 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'm pretty sure you're referencing when I said we could've had Sewell plus Terrance Marshall. Marshall went 13 picks after Carman, so we could've traded back and got those picks in either scenario.

Fwiw, I don't think I've been overly critical of this draft, considering I didn't get the top guy I wanted.

I've showered praise on Chase - as has most Sewell guys. I gave the draft a B-...not an F. I think most of us have been fair, we just have different priorities.

Also, I have to clarify. Keeping Burrow healthy is important, but far from the only reason people wanted Sewell. The lineman we got were...nice. But o-line once again took a backseat on the priority list. This time to WR.

(05-02-2021, 02:30 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: I don’t know if they are fine long term since Reiff has 10 years on him and is on a one year deal, they can still get a tackle in FA next year or in the draft for the long term too. Are they OK this year? We have to wait and see if Adeniji makes a leap, Reiff is starting and Carman can play the position in a pinch. I think it’s fine for this year but they need a better long term solution at RT still.

(05-04-2021, 08:58 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: Cracks me up.  Whitworth signed a new deal at the age of 35, played out that deal and is still humming along.  

Who said Reiff, who is younger than Whitworth at that point can't do the same?  Heck, if he plays well I can see the Bengals resigning him to a 3- year deal.  If so the tackle issue isn't that bad and we have plenty of time to draft and groom a replacement.

(05-04-2021, 07:50 AM)Tony Wrote: Your team sewell and team Chase lists are a joke. I literally watched Willie Anderson say he was Team Chase on New stripe city podcast civil war.. You seam to have left alot out for Chase too, coincidentally I suppose........

(05-04-2021, 08:58 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: Cracks me up.  Whitworth signed a new deal at the age of 35, played out that deal and is still humming along.  

Who said Reiff, who is younger than Whitworth at that point can't do the same?  Heck, if he plays well I can see the Bengals resigning him to a 3- year deal.  If so the tackle issue isn't that bad and we have plenty of time to draft and groom a replacement.

(05-02-2021, 12:49 PM)Beaker Wrote: This is not an I told you so thread. But this is to address whether or not Team Sewell people can now relax a bit after the draft is complete.

The biggest argument I heard coming out of those on team Sewell was that "winning teams build from the trenches". And if the Bengals took Chase, they were neglecting the trenches and Burrow was going to die. After taking the best WR in the draft, I would say the Bengals did a really nice job building from the trenches. In fact, of their 110 draft picks, they took 7 players on the Offensive and defensive lines. They got:

A starter a G in Carman. Some thought he was a reach based on his expected draft position. But those grades were based on him being evaluated as an OT prospect, not a G. The Bengals drafted him as a G who could also move out to play RT in case of injuries. Arguably G was our biggest line need, not T. And with Rieff on a 1 yr deal, Carman is a stellar fit.

A run stuffing, immovable DT from a power SEC school. Shelvin will fit perfectly into our D line rotation and hopefully bring it back to like it was under Zimmer when he was always rotating in fresh players and getting pressure on opposing QBs.

An OT who is a bit light and needs some coaching, but has a great upside.

3 DEs, one of which was a consensus great pick in Ossai. DE was arguably our second biggest position of need. Lack of pressure on QBs was a huge problem last year.

A good C, who if he hadnt gotten injured was projected maybe 2 rounds earlier. We now have a backup/heir to our C who is coming off an ACL injury.

I would say that is a pretty strong job of addressing the trenches.

I also saw a poster who pointed out after the Carman pick that he would have rather had Sewell and a WR like Moore, than Chase and Carman. What he failed to recognize with that post was that it wasn't Chase/Carman. Because of the trade, we also got Tyler Shelvin and D'Ante Smith. Call me stupid, but with the number of holes we had on both lines, I think the Bengals did a fantastic job getting Chase/Carman/Shelvin/Smith which is a huge advantage over Sewell/Moore with those picks.

In conclusion, those who were upset after round one and were positive the Bengals had screwed up and that our FO was only interested in flashy toys as weapons for Burrow while neglecting the glaring needs....do you still feel the same way now?

(05-04-2021, 08:58 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: Cracks me up.  Whitworth signed a new deal at the age of 35, played out that deal and is still humming along.  

Who said Reiff, who is younger than Whitworth at that point can't do the same?  Heck, if he plays well I can see the Bengals resigning him to a 3- year deal.  If so the tackle issue isn't that bad and we have plenty of time to draft and groom a replacement.