(02-19-2022, 12:58 PM)CloeHokie Wrote: With our success and Burrow I think we will have a much better shot at getting the guys we want. Or some of them. Players are wanting to come here now. We are lucky to know exactly what our problem is.

(02-19-2022, 02:23 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's older guys chasing a ring that take a discount.

(02-19-2022, 12:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: And why do you consider sacks to be a death sentence for Burrow when lots of QBs have been sacked a lot more thna him with no serious injuries.  You really think Joe is made of glass like Eifert?

(02-19-2022, 02:23 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think it helps some, but players generally go where the most money is offered.

It's older guys chasing a ring that take a discount.

And our free agents, other teams will drive some of their price tag up.

(02-19-2022, 12:17 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: And maybe, just maybe, a super bowl to show for it.  Just saying.  You can’t always keep building for the future.  At some point you need to put your chips in the middle of the table.  The only team that was able to avoid this was patriots and Brady, which isn’t the norm.  

It’s literally the most obvious thing we have ever seen.  Get a good OL.  I don’t care if our backups suck, as long as our starters are good.  We played, down the stretch… 4 backup OL. It’s criminal… and somehow the bengals almost won in spite of that.

(02-19-2022, 04:06 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: That’s EXACTLY how to handle free agency next month!  Still, we need to define “older” before proceeding.  Let’s say “experienced” instead because I don’t want a repeat of the early 2000s where Marvin brought in washed up former stars like Sam Adams.  That guy is probably visible from the James Webb telescope by now.

Based on his glowing comments about Joe Burrow I believe Rob Gronkowski might come to Cincinnati on a sweet team friendly deal.  A star player like Gronk tends to attract other star players too.  Gronk is north of 30 but not too far north.  Guys like Brandon Scherff, Morgan Moses, and Terron Armistead aren’t going to win a ring with the Commies, Props, or Aints so I predict their agents are already on the phone with Mike Brown and Duke Tobin.

(02-19-2022, 04:06 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: That’s EXACTLY how to handle free agency next month!  Still, we need to define “older” before proceeding.  Let’s say “experienced” instead because I don’t want a repeat of the early 2000s where Marvin brought in washed up former stars like Sam Adams.  That guy is probably visible from the James Webb telescope by now.

Based on his glowing comments about Joe Burrow I believe Rob Gronkowski might come to Cincinnati on a sweet team friendly deal.  A star player like Gronk tends to attract other star players too.  Gronk is north of 30 but not too far north.  Guys like Brandon Scherff, Morgan Moses, and Terron Armistead aren’t going to win a ring with the Commies, Props, or Aints so I predict their agents are already on the phone with Mike Brown and Duke Tobin.

(02-20-2022, 12:48 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: Also, T Brown had the best PFF rating of any free agent olineman available.

(02-20-2022, 01:05 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Which grade are you looking at for Trent?  I'm seeing 72.8 overall. Thanks in advance.

(02-20-2022, 01:30 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/trent-brown/9677

Says 77.6 overall.

(02-20-2022, 01:43 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Interesting, but I think your snap count is low?

(02-20-2022, 01:50 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: Could be. I don't pay for PFF, so maybe that's the issue. I just looked up the scores on their website and most of them are blocked. I just get the overall score.

Regardless, I don't see a lot of difference among the options availlable. There don't seem to be any home run lineman available, and a lot of them are atleast 30 years old. It seems difficult to build an offensive line outside of the draft. It's crazy how many misses we have in the draft the last several years. Goes to show you if you hit on the pick, maybe you should hang onto that player.

Seems like the best option is to invest in multiple lineman in FA at the 5mil-9mil/year range. Trent Brown could be too big of an injury risk at 9mil though.

(02-19-2022, 04:06 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: That’s EXACTLY how to handle free agency next month!  Still, we need to define “older” before proceeding.  Let’s say “experienced” instead because I don’t want a repeat of the early 2000s where Marvin brought in washed up former stars like Sam Adams.  That guy is probably visible from the James Webb telescope by now.

Based on his glowing comments about Joe Burrow I believe Rob Gronkowski might come to Cincinnati on a sweet team friendly deal.  A star player like Gronk tends to attract other star players too.  Gronk is north of 30 but not too far north.  Guys like Brandon Scherff, Morgan Moses, and Terron Armistead aren’t going to win a ring with the Commies, Props, or Aints so I predict their agents are already on the phone with Mike Brown and Duke Tobin.

(02-20-2022, 11:34 AM)samhain Wrote: One player not mentioned is Jason Kelce.  He's the best center available but gets devalued due to age.  He wouldn't likely require a long-term commitment and is as bona-fide a locker room presence as any player in the league.  Would you rather spend the final years of your career with Jalen Hurts, who seems to have serious issues reading a defense, or Joe Burrow and his loaded offense fresh off of a SB appearance in the town where you played college football?

(02-20-2022, 11:34 AM)samhain Wrote: One player not mentioned is Jason Kelce.  He's the best center available but gets devalued due to age.  He wouldn't likely require a long-term commitment and is as bona-fide a locker room presence as any player in the league.  Would you rather spend the final years of your career with Jalen Hurts, who seems to have serious issues reading a defense, or Joe Burrow and his loaded offense fresh off of a SB appearance in the town where you played college football?

(02-20-2022, 11:46 AM)Synric Wrote: Jason Kelce is not a free agent and the only reason he's not retired is because the Eagles asked him to come back for at least one more season. If the Eagles move on from Kelce I expect him to retire.

(02-20-2022, 11:46 AM)Synric Wrote: Jason Kelce is not a free agent and the only reason he's not retired is because the Eagles asked him to come back for at least one more season. If the Eagles move on from Kelce I expect him to retire.

(02-20-2022, 12:04 AM)ochocincos Wrote: No one in their right mind thought the Bengals were actually contending for the Super Bowl. Not even the Bengals themselves.
I'm sure they would have gone more "in" if they had known.
Now that they've shown they can get there, they can be willing to invest more to get back.