(05-09-2022, 05:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: And it will cost relatively nothing to move on from Adeniji in preseason if he doesn't make it.
Bengals have plenty of cap space to add more players if they wanted without needing to cut anyone right now.

(05-09-2022, 09:51 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Agreed, it's easy to see why the Bengals drafted him if you start checking out his NDSU footage. To be concise, he's a "glass eater" that the Bengals want for '22 - 23. Some of the scouting reports list his primary weakness as, "level of competition" but I'm at a point where I can dismiss that or else the NFL would never have successful players from schools that aren't from the Power Five conferences.

Volson, at minimum, is going to increase the OL depth while competing for the final starting spot.

(05-09-2022, 10:14 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: For anyone calling to cut any OL, why would the Bengals do that prior to TC and prior to preseason. I know hard concept to understand, but players do improve. Also, they may improve a lot and still not be able to beat out others so maybe we could trade them for a 6th or 7th round pick verus cutting them.

The point is I don't get the definitive cut anyone right now, even Wilson who I think will have a battle to keep his roster spot in 2022. But who knows now if we have injuries or if he can beat out the young guys drafted at his position. We save 2 million in cap space if we do cut him.

We also don't know the Bates contract situation and how it will play out. The players in danger are not highly paid so it is not like we gain a lot of cap space cutting any young OL.

(05-09-2022, 05:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: And it will cost relatively nothing to move on from Adeniji in preseason if he doesn't make it.
Bengals have plenty of cap space to add more players if they wanted without needing to cut anyone right now.

(05-09-2022, 08:40 PM)Joelist Wrote: I'm still trying to process some of the strange comments on the forum about the OL room, such as panning all our OL picks last draft because some were Day 3. In 2021 we took 3 OL in the deepest OL draft in memory - this is not a bad thing. We added Volson this offseason and when you look at him as G instead of T his scores skyrocket. Hill, Smith and yes Carman all flashed more than once but the reality last season is we were taking a chance with the depth room having virtually no NFL experience. Alas we had a number of injuries (as usual for us concentrated in one position group) at first RG (Sua Filo then Carman then Adeniji even ) and RT when Reiff got hurt was killer. These forced our raw draft picks into the lineup for large numbers of reps and naturally they suffered.

Let's see how the line shakes out for opening day. LG is the only openish spot and I still am expecting Spain back at some point if for no other reason so we have seasoned depth.

(05-09-2022, 08:43 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote: We are trying to make a run at the Super Bowl, being mediocre is not good enough.

(05-11-2022, 12:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I am expecting an O-line of this come opening day if Carman is having any trouble with his back...

LT - Jonah Williams/D'Ante Smith
LG - Cordell Volson/Jackson Carman/Spain/D'Ante
C - Ted Karras/Trey Hill/Ben Brown
RG - Alex Cappa/Reese/Carman/Spain
RT - La'el Collins/D'Ante Smith/Carman

(05-09-2022, 08:43 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote: We are trying to make a run at the Super Bowl, being mediocre is not good enough.

(05-11-2022, 12:58 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I like the Volson pick, but if we have a 4th round rookie starting on our O-line then we have problems.

(05-11-2022, 12:58 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I like the Volson pick, but if we have a 4th round rookie starting on our O-line then we have problems.

(05-09-2022, 08:43 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote: We are trying to make a run at the Super Bowl, being mediocre is not good enough.

(05-11-2022, 01:11 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Why? The Chiefs started your boy this season, and he was a 6th round rookie.

(05-11-2022, 01:39 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Trey Smith was a 3 time All-SEC player who dropped in the draft due to a medical condition.

If that was Volson's story then I might be more excited, but it is not even close.

(05-11-2022, 01:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m not sure I’d be anymore “excited” about Carman as the starter. I would almost rather D’Ante Smith or Volson beat him out. At least we’d know they earned it, and it wasn’t a matter of getting the chance because of where they were drafted.

(05-11-2022, 02:01 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I honestly see no way of D'Ante Smith ever becoming a starter until he can add and keep on bulk.
Leading up to the draft, Smith clearly couldn't handle power, of which many believed because he plays at 295 lbs or less.
Bengals site lists Smith at 294 lbs, but I believe that was from last year.
Some believe he's done a good job bulking up this offseason based on some of those weight room videos, but it might be just on the angles shown. We'll find out when they do their training camp weigh-ins how much bigger he's gotten.

(05-11-2022, 12:58 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I like the Volson pick, but if we have a 4th round rookie starting on our O-line then we have problems.

(05-11-2022, 01:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:  At least we’d know they earned it, and it wasn’t a matter of getting the chance because of where they were drafted.

(05-11-2022, 02:17 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote:  I just cannot help but believe people like Sunset about back problems.

(05-11-2022, 01:24 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Which is likely why the Bengals signed 3 OL in free agency, veteran players with specific skills and traits that they were looking for.  As for the developmental picks?  You have to have young, up and coming talent developing on your roster, as it is simply too costly to expect to be able to keep a star quality player at every position on the roster.

(05-11-2022, 02:32 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is not meant as an insult to Sunset in any way, but having a problem with your back does not make you qualified to give an opinion on Carman's problem. Sunset has never seen an MRI or even examined Carman's back.

So, for now I will trust the people who graduated from medical school and actually examined Carman's back.  If there was a serious problem I believe we would have taken an O-lineman before the 4th round.

(05-11-2022, 04:44 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote: I wouldn't call anyone on our offensive line a star except La'el Collins who is a former pro bowler, 

(05-11-2022, 04:49 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote:   I don't think you can always tell much from an MRI, many people have herniated discs that do not cause issues, I think it has to be hitting a nerve to cause massive amounts of pain.  We would probably have to hear from Carman himself to know how much of an issue it is.  I would guess that he would be afraid to admit if it was an issue since he would probably be cut from the team if he couldn't play this year.

(05-11-2022, 04:49 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote:  I don't think you can always tell much from an MRI,

(05-11-2022, 05:35 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: This is spot on.  

(05-11-2022, 02:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Ridiculous argument.

You seriously hope that none of our high draft picks get to start?

My guess is that this logic only applies to Carman because you don't like him.