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RE: Gimme your 53 - fredtoast - 08-29-2022
(08-28-2022, 11:21 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: And how great does he have to look to bump Perine?
Evans has never done anything on either the college or NFL level that would indicate he is a better RB than Perine.
Really like how he is looking on returns though.
RE: Gimme your 53 - Essex Johnson - 08-29-2022
(08-28-2022, 07:58 PM)740Bengal Wrote: Only trouble with that is, you have to want to play to get better.
well all accounts coming into this season and in preseason Carman has been working at his craft and a clearer focus than last year. but results matter in the end.. still time
RE: Gimme your 53 - Essex Johnson - 08-29-2022
(08-28-2022, 11:48 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Believe Browning won job as well but oddly don't see him receiving it over Allen.
Like Bfine 53 but would like to see 4 RB kept
The bengals really did not have a competition at QB like Punter, if they did, Browning would have played more with 2nd team and against 2nd team... he did enough to warrant Practice Squad though. and Allen did not have a terrible camp of ints, etc.. it was evident early that our 2nd team Oline was not going to give much help to Allen in passing game or in running game
RE: Gimme your 53 - Go Cards - 08-29-2022
(08-29-2022, 12:24 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: The bengals really did not have a competition at QB like Punter, if they did, Browning would have played more with 2nd team and against 2nd team... he did enough to warrant Practice Squad though. and Allen did not have a terrible camp of ints, etc.. it was evident early that our 2nd team Oline was not going to give much help to Allen in passing game or in running game
True but it's my opinion they should have and not just handed Allen the reigns as you've pointed out.
Plus to be fair the O-line was not giving Browning much help either. Yet he made solid passes under pressure and looked calm and collective while doing so as well.
Agree with you though that Browning was not given a real chance to win this spot and the job was always going to default back to Allen.
Personally am more comfortable rolling with Huber for another year than Allen, even though Im perfectly fine with replacing Huber.
RE: Gimme your 53 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-29-2022
(08-28-2022, 06:23 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: Brandon Allen ceiling is Jake Browing's floor. Jake 2nd year player Allen 6th year both had same stats basically so go with the youth and higher ceiling.
See Brandon Allen has been in here thumbing down your posts again BengalsBong.
(08-28-2022, 07:18 PM)Eraserhead Wrote: For such a massive human, Shelvin gets stopped in his tracks or redirected from the action way too easily.
No doubt, I saw much more from Dominic Davis against the Rams.
Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane is Shelvin from what I have seen so far.
(08-28-2022, 07:36 PM)Nepa Wrote: Yeah, Hobson cited a different PFF grade, the run-blocking grade, as an indication that Carman "appeared to step up."
"Although Carman gave up a sack and was called for a hold, he appeared to play pretty well other than that and had PFF's second-best run blocking grade on the team behind right tackle Hakeem Adeniji. There seems to be momentum indicating Volson is going to get the nod against the Steelers, but someone forgot to tell Carman. He appeared to step up."
https://www.bengals.com/news/kevin-huber-drue-chrisman-punter-battle-heads-up-roster-questions
This is what I saw from Charmin, gonna call him this until he steps up lol
Still he was better than that PFF grade for sure. Same with Gilliam. I like that Trey Hill is playing decent.
RE: Gimme your 53 - ochocincos - 08-29-2022
(08-29-2022, 01:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: See Brandon Allen has been in here thumbing down your posts again BengalsBong.
No doubt, I saw much more from Dominic Davis against the Rams.
Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane is Shelvin from what I have seen so far.
This is what I saw from Charmin, gonna call him this until he steps up lol
Still he was better than that PFF grade for sure. Same with Gilliam. I like that Trey Hill is playing decent.
PFF doesn't seem to be a fan of either Volson or Carman in the pass block department, but they do seem to be fans of their run blocking.
Volson:
65 pass snaps, 32.7 grade
36 run snaps, 74.6 grade
Carman:
65 pass snaps, 25.8 grade
28 run snaps, 66.2 grade
If going by PFF, Volson won out, but neither have been good pass blocking through the preseason.
RE: Gimme your 53 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-29-2022
(08-29-2022, 03:05 PM)ochocincos Wrote: PFF doesn't seem to be a fan of either Volson or Carman in the pass block department, but they do seem to be fans of their run blocking.
Volson:
65 pass snaps, 32.7 grade
36 run snaps, 74.6 grade
Carman:
65 pass snaps, 25.8 grade
28 run snaps, 66.2 grade
If going by PFF, Volson won out, but neither have been good pass blocking through the preseason.
Thanks Ocho. Hope these guys can improve in the pass blocking department cause yeah, they haven't been good at it.
Bring in somebody is still my vote. There are veteran players who can at the very least upgrade our depth. Spain, Hopkins
already know the system, Ereck Flowers is an upgrade as far as PFF numbers show. Could trade for Wynn etc.
RE: Gimme your 53 - Essex Johnson - 08-29-2022
(08-29-2022, 01:02 PM)Go Cards Wrote: True but it's my opinion they should have and not just handed Allen the reigns as you've pointed out.Not all competition is equal we know that, Browning was given a good amount of reps but he never performed at such a high level l to supercede Allen , just as Allen never played so bad ie int, fumbles etc.. to loss the job to him
Plus to be fair the O-line was not giving Browning much help either. Yet he made solid passes under pressure and looked calm and collective while doing so as well.
Agree with you though that Browning was not given a real chance to win this spot and the job was always going to default back to Allen.
Personally am more comfortable rolling with Huber for another year than Allen, even though Im perfectly fine with replacing Huber.
RE: Gimme your 53 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-29-2022
(08-29-2022, 05:40 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Not all competition is equal we know that, Browning was given a good amount of reps but he never performed at such a high level l to supercede Allen , just as Allen never played so bad ie int, fumbles etc.. to loss the job to him
Allen threw a should of been pick 6 against the Rams. Good thing that guy plays Defense that should of took it to the house.
He made a couple great throws before that but I find Browning to be better in every aspect and I like his swagger.
Don't give me Macaroni BS either, I like how Browning throws on the run and how he can extend plays. He is smart.
RE: Gimme your 53 - pally - 08-30-2022
4 RBs
The #Bengals are keeping four RBs through the cut, as fourth-year back Trayveon Williams has made it, per source.
— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) August 30, 2022
RE: Gimme your 53 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 10:44 AM)pally Wrote: 4 RBs
The #Bengals are keeping four RBs through the cut, as fourth-year back Trayveon Williams has made it, per source.
— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) August 30, 2022
Trayveon shown more than Patrick, I get it.
RE: Gimme your 53 - pally - 08-30-2022
glad he made it....
? BREAKING ?
— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) August 30, 2022
Evan McPherson has made the 53-man roster for the 2022 season. pic.twitter.com/lXO0R3UQo9
RE: Gimme your 53 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-30-2022
There will be some guys who may be on IR/PUP to start the season who would otherwise have a shot at the 53, or be on it (CTB, Prince, Bachie, Kareem, B. Wilson, Wilcox, etc), which could open spots for others (George, Johnston, Spence, M. Thomas, etc) that could be temporary.
Even so, the 53 we have today will not be the 53 we have next Tuesday. I'd love to add some real OL depth (OT, OG, or even C) or a healthy TE.
RE: Gimme your 53 - rfaulk34 - 08-30-2022
Carman listed #1 on the depth chart @LG.
RE: Gimme your 53 - Essex Johnson - 08-30-2022
(08-29-2022, 09:48 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Allen threw a should of been pick 6 against the Rams. Good thing that guy plays Defense that should of took it to the house.
He made a couple great throws before that but I find Browning to be better in every aspect and I like his swagger.
Don't give me Macaroni BS either, I like how Browning throws on the run and how he can extend plays. He is smart.
What BS.. my statement was solid.. Browning had a nice camp but he had to have a super star camp which he did not.... unless Allen just completely tanked.. which he did not...
RE: Gimme your 53 - pally - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 05:58 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: What BS.. my statement was solid.. Browning had a nice camp but he had to have a super star camp which he did not.... unless Allen just completely tanked.. which he did not...
Dehner indicated this move had A LOT to do with Joe and his comfort with Brandon Allen as his sideline sidekick during games. Joe really likes how Brandon thinks and communicates during the game
RE: Gimme your 53 - PCB Bengal Fan - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 05:58 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: What BS.. my statement was solid.. Browning had a nice camp but he had to have a super star camp which he did not.... unless Allen just completely tanked.. which he did not...
Allen waits till he's playing in the regular season to tank. He sucks.
RE: Gimme your 53 - WhodeyRay - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 10:44 AM)pally Wrote: 4 RBsAnd only 5 wrs. That seem a little light to me.
The #Bengals are keeping four RBs through the cut, as fourth-year back Trayveon Williams has made it, per source.
— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) August 30, 2022
RE: Gimme your 53 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 02:50 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: There will be some guys who may be on IR/PUP to start the season who would otherwise have a shot at the 53, or be on it (CTB, Prince, Bachie, Kareem, B. Wilson, Wilcox, etc), which could open spots for others (George, Johnston, Spence, M. Thomas, etc) that could be temporary.
Even so, the 53 we have today will not be the 53 we have next Tuesday. I'd love to add some real OL depth (OT, OG, or even C) or a healthy TE.
Nice post agree with everything you say here.
I see us also adding at least 1 WR as we cut Mike Thomas and Trent Taylor.
OL depth is a must.
(08-30-2022, 05:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Carman listed #1 on the depth chart @LG.
Interesting.
(08-30-2022, 05:58 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: What BS.. my statement was solid.. Browning had a nice camp but he had to have a super star camp which he did not.... unless Allen just completely tanked.. which he did not...
If that DB would of held onto that interception I could argue it was a tanking Preseason from Allen. He was bad man.
What I said wasn't BS, he sure did nearly throw a pick 6 against the Rams the DB just dropped it, was a terrible throw
and Browning was clearly better in most everyone's eyes this Preseason, Plitt too I thought was better than Allen.
(08-30-2022, 06:05 PM)pally Wrote: Dehner indicated this move had A LOT to do with Joe and his comfort with Brandon Allen as his sideline sidekick during games. Joe really likes how Brandon thinks and communicates during the game
Yeah, it sure isn't on field play in the Preseason why Brandon Allen is still here...
Hey, is good at calling the coin flip!
RE: Gimme your 53 - TheFan - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 06:21 PM)WhodeyRay Wrote: And only 5 wrs. That seem a little light to me.
Maybe they played to use Evans more out wide as a 3rd rb/extra WR?