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RE: So who is that starter at LG? - KillerGoose - 08-29-2022

(08-29-2022, 04:13 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Do teams do "grades" and "stats" like PFF does, though?

I'd be real curious to see something like that from teams, even if it was a player who is no longer on the team or retired.

They do, but maybe not the exact same. I know a former D-1 positional coach. He's now a DC at a 6A high school down in Texas. He has talked about how they have a grading system for players, with some schools even having data analysts.

Hell, I remember when I played football in HS, we received grades and had meetings with our positional coaches, though they were rudimentary (A+, B+ etc.)


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-29-2022

(08-29-2022, 06:14 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I too think it would be Spain.
He knows the system and performed mostly well there last year.
He won't (or shouldn't) need more than a couple weeks to ramp up.

Makes the most sense as he is the vet that that knows the system that plays the position in question.


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Bengal Dude - 08-30-2022

Volson won the job between himself and Carman. However, I'm guessing the team will be scouring the waiver wire for someone to replace Volson if he falls flat.


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Housh - 08-30-2022

Volston


Jackson Carmen just isn’t ready


If he wasn’t a second round pick he may not even be on the team


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nicomo Cosca - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 02:31 AM)Housh Wrote: Volston


Jackson Carmen just isn’t ready


If he wasn’t a second round pick he may not even be on the team

*Volson

*Carman

Man some of you do a number on my OCD. Gaah


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - 007BengalsFan - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 02:54 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: *Volson

*Carman

Man some of you do a number on my OCD. Gaah

It could be autocorrect.  I know on my phone Carman always gets "corrected" to Carmen.


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Soonerpeace - 08-30-2022

(08-29-2022, 12:32 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This times 1000.

You guys know that I always hesitate to judge a player by his rookie season.  Especially with a guy like Carman who was coming off a back surgery.

But he was healthy this offseason.  And it is not like Volson has just blown everyone away.  He has not looked that great himself.

It is a very bad sign for Carman to lose his spot to a 4th round pick from an FCS school.

Exactly and troubling knowing he had to know he was in a battle. Carman is not a bust because he’s not good. He’s a bust because he never got it together.


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - WeezyBengal - 08-30-2022

I am still not convinced that the LG who will start week 1 is currently on this roster.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Bengals traded or picked up a LG who would be plugged into the starting lineup. They've made a few moves like this over the past couple of years.


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - ochocincos - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 02:54 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: *Volson

*Carman

Man some of you do a number on my OCD. Gaah

What's worse for you - Carmen or Dunlop?  Smirk


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - PhilHos - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 10:09 AM)ochocincos Wrote: What's worse for you - Carmen or Dunlop?  Smirk

Burrows. Pissed


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Frank Booth - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 09:18 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Exactly and troubling knowing he had to know he was in a battle. Carman is not a bust because he’s not good. He’s a bust because he never got it together.

.....so he's not good


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Soonerpeace - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 10:20 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: .....so he's not good

Could be good


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 09:18 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Exactly and troubling knowing he had to know he was in a battle. Carman is not a bust because he’s not good. He’s a bust because he never got it together.

You and Fred agreeing on something... Shocked


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - rfaulk34 - 08-30-2022

Right now it looks like Carman. 


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - TheFan - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 09:18 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Exactly and troubling knowing he had to know he was in a battle. Carman is not a bust because he’s not good. He’s a bust because he never got it together.

No one is a bust after 1 season of play. Especially when they're thrust into a new position and that young. 


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 06:40 PM)TheFan Wrote: No one is a bust after 1 season of play. Especially when they're thrust into a new position that young. 

I agree. Way too early to say bust with any of the 2nd year guys.


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Soonerpeace - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 06:40 PM)TheFan Wrote: No one is a bust after 1 season of play. Especially when they're thrust into a new position and that young. 

You are right but so far he’s been underwhelming


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - jason - 08-30-2022

(08-30-2022, 09:50 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I am still not convinced that the LG who will start week 1 is currently on this roster.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Bengals traded or picked up a LG who would be plugged into the starting lineup. They've made a few moves like this over the past couple of years.

Hope you're right...


RE: So who is that starter at LG? - bengals1969 - 08-30-2022

Volson showed he knew what he was trying to do in the Giants game.
Physically he showed he belonged. He finished plays, even when he messed up. I like what he shows. I think he will learn quickly with the vet Oline we have.

Carman is far from a bust at 22.

Alex Leatherwood a #17 pick a couple years ago got cut by the Raiders today. So Carman has no safety net just because he’s a 2ed round pick.
Best Bengal team I’ve seen since their founding.


So who is that starter at LG? - maclanta - 08-30-2022

(08-29-2022, 12:50 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I think it is hard to quantify the impact of a good running game on the passing game.

But last year QBs that faced a 3rd-and-4 had a 95.4 passer rating while QBs facing a 3rd-and-7 only had an 83.2 rating. The main way a good run game helps the passing game is keeping the team "ahead of the sticks".


Isn’t that called off sides?


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