(11-22-2022, 11:26 PM)Nepa Wrote: I understand the excitement TN fans for their team right now, after beating Green Bay away and given the game Tannehill had. He had a QB rating of 127, completing 22 of 27 for 333. A very solid team, very good in the red zone and on 3rd and 4th with short yardage. Henry is extraordinary. I also understand TN fans being upset by not be favored. And they were the first seed last year and the upstart Bengals beat them in a close one.

This game will be very tough for the Bengals and may come down to turnovers, again. But I would say I am sure the Bengals team feels like this is a must win game, given they are already behind the Ravens and only have their toes on the line of a playoff position. Tennessee seems like a shoe-in for their division. So, I find it unlikely the revenge factor outweighs the larger motivation of the Bengals team feeling like they need this one.

(11-23-2022, 01:47 PM)Sevenfeet Wrote: Everyone in Nashville is assuming that dude is playing.

(11-23-2022, 02:09 PM)Goalpost Wrote: He's been on crutches for over a month and just got off them.  How ready he can be?...who knows.  The Bengals have been relatively positive about the process of letting the hairline fracture in his hip heal itself.  That timetable has been met.  Hopefully he is 100 percent healed, which he wouldnt see the field if it wasn't.  From there it probably a matter of his conditioning.  

(11-23-2022, 02:11 PM)Sled21 Wrote: He'll work his way back in. With the emergence of Irwin and Taylor Chase won't have to play every snap.

(11-21-2022, 10:50 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I don’t get why they are insulted about the line. It’s not a popularity contest. I get being surprised, but it’s not personal guys.

And a lot of them don’t think much of the Bengals. According to them they were the better team and should have won last year. No reason given. They’re also kind of assuming half a dozen sacks.

They were called a # 1 fraud last year and the Bengals proved it. (I defended them last year saying they won the games so they earned it) but the whine fest over there annoys me.

(11-22-2022, 07:31 AM)michaelsean Wrote: They have five or six wins before the season starts because of that craptastic division. They had a week off and home field and lost. Fraud.  Like I said I argued they were not a fraud, but I’m a sports fan and can change my opinion for petty reasons. Like their whining

(11-22-2022, 07:40 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Jesus, that's depressing seeing it all written out like that...


...the NFL needs to do something about college football. There's way too many bad QBs starting in the NFL. There's like 8 QBs under 38 y/o who are good, 2 in mid-30s who used to be good but are currently terrible this year, 4 who are okay but clearly a step down, and then a sea of meh-to-crap. Might be time to finally create an NFL minor league system for players out of high school so there's more QBs/OL actually prepared for NFL play.

(11-22-2022, 08:09 AM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Well this week Tannehill won’t be much better than the competition we’ve played. The Titans have scored over 20 points 4 times but more than 24 points 1 time, whereas we have scored over 24 points in 6 of our last 8.

I believe they put up over I don’t care so much about the QBs they play, because if our offense is putting up the points they’ve been, they will compete with anything. Our defense is built to play against these good QBs, because many of these good QBs want to take shots and we don’t typically give up huge plays (now CTB scares me a little).

But like I said Tannehill is closer to those quarterbacks on that list, than the elite ones we play later this year. I think that’s why it’s important we grab this one.

(11-23-2022, 02:09 PM)Goalpost Wrote: He's been on crutches for over a month and just got off them.  How ready he can be?...who knows.  The Bengals have been relatively positive about the process of letting the hairline fracture in his hip heal itself.  That timetable has been met.  Hopefully he is 100 percent healed, which he wouldnt see the field if it wasn't.  From there it's probably a matter of his conditioning.  

(11-23-2022, 01:56 PM)Sevenfeet Wrote: Titans AFC opponents yet to face this season:

Bengals
Jags (twice)
Chargers
Texans

The most important in that bunch are the Jags and Texans and ironically those are the "easier" games compared to the upcoming Bengals match and the Chargers, who like us, nearly beat the Chiefs. The Chargers game is in L.A. too. But a win against the Bengals would put us in the proverbial drivers seat.

NFC opponents we haven't faced:

Eagles (the return of A.J. Brown...and that game is in Philly)
Cowboys (Home SNF)

You could easily make the argument that the NFC opponents are tougher matches than any of the upcoming AFC matches, Bengals included. Right now, only the Colts are within any kind of striking range of us. If we win 3 of the 5 AFC matches, I think we're set. If we win 4, then definitely. And I've love to go 1 for 2 with the NFC matches if possible.

(11-23-2022, 01:45 PM)Sevenfeet Wrote: Henry was asked about this a few weeks ago since he hasn't had a "75 yards to the house" moment this season. He doesn't think so. Now everyone ages and running backs are no different. I do think that defensive secondary players have gotten better at keeping him from that huge score since they always go for his feet now which seems to be easier to stop him by tripping rather that approaching him waist up (which is asking for a highlight reel-stiff arm).

(11-23-2022, 01:47 PM)Sevenfeet Wrote: Everyone in Nashville is assuming that dude is playing.

(11-23-2022, 05:23 PM)Sevenfeet Wrote: And in a scene where past is prologue...

Mr. Carlson: What, uh, seems to be the big story of the day?

Les: Taxes. Nobody wants to pay them anymore.

Mr. Carlson: I see--

Les: And in other headlines, Thursday is Thanksgiving again.

Mr. Carlson: Ah I see--

Les: Inflation continues. There's more fighting in Africa.

Mr. Carlson: ---

Les: And in football, this may be the week for the Bengals.

Mr. Carlson: Ah!

Les: Or maybe not.

Mr. Carlson: Oh....

(11-23-2022, 09:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Might be a thought, but I just think a lot of the younger QB's are just learning and aren't just studs out of college like 
say Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and Herbert are. Lamar as well I have to include. Big drop off after these top 5 though that
is for sure. The Jets are benching Wilson for Mike White BTW.

(11-22-2022, 08:06 PM)Sevenfeet Wrote: QBR (invented by ESPN in 2011) is a harder metric to grasp, especially since there are 6 major metrics that it is following and the first one has a number of moving parts. Contrast that to passer rating (which is a real NFL stat) which is only about passing yards/completion percentage/TDs/sacks and nothing more.  Some of the metrics are subjective at best.  For example, there is a "discount" for garbage time stats, that is a QB that gets a whole bunch of yards when the game is out of reach. I'd love to see how that's calculated and if someone has to manually determine that.

As for the names on this list, I think Lamar Jackson would like to have a word with you on whether Joe Burrow is a better QB. But let's discuss Marcus Mariota since we Titans fans are very familiar with him and his game play since he started for us for years. No one is saying that Mariota is better than Burrow...heck, he'd probably agree. (And Mariota was loved in Nashville as a great human being, but he was a middling, inconsistent QB). But QBR helps Mariota in that running the football is considered to be something that gooses the metric. And Mariota has always done well there (as has Lamar Jackson).

And then there's the "degree of difficulty" metric for a play. So I expect that a QB isn't rewarded much if he checks down a lot, but gets points for harder, down the field passes. Then you get freaks like Mahomes who can pocket pass in tight windows down the field, run the ball AND do freaky off-schedule stuff that kills defenses (like what happened to us twice now).

So a passer rating is certainly easier to wrap your brain around. But QBR was supposed to rate the entire package of the athlete, so to speak.

(11-22-2022, 06:26 PM)RegularGuy22 Wrote: Hey there, Sevenfeet, it's refreshing to see an opponents fan come in here and show some brains and common sense and be able to chat with members here without the usual mud slinging and insults. It's a flucking game, that all. Why some fans from any team act like their very life depended on 'their" team winning or not. Earlier this year after Bengals-Dolphins game there were "fans" on their forums that were mad as hell that a Miami Dolphin thug didn't return the injury to Burrow that Tua suffered. Childish immaturity at the highest level. I really wonder about the IQ level and brain function of some of these people.

As far as this game I look at it as a 50/50 chance of a Bengals win as I always do. When they are on, they can beat anybody but when they are off they look like misfits and embarrassing. (See Browns Game on MNF). When the Bengals win a few games the local media is all gushing over them only to see them forget to show up the next week. That's why... I always have a conservative thought about any game they play. Any team on the schedule is dangerous, I don't care their record. Vikings were rolling along playing well hitting on all 8 and look what Dallas did to them Sunday.

(11-23-2022, 10:49 PM)jason Wrote: Doesn't Henry tend to have his monster games as the season wears on?... Like from here on out?

(11-24-2022, 11:14 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: Yes, he does. Since 2016, Henry averages 4.26 yards per attempt in weeks 1-8 with a total of 34 TDs on 910 rushes. In weeks 9-EOS, he averages 5.43 yards per attempt with a total of 41 TDs on 726 rushes.

If there is any consolation, Henry has some really forgettable outings. This isn't necessarily his fault as he is creating for himself really well, but the Titans offensive line is a bottom tier line. He doesn't have much room to work with. 

(11-24-2022, 11:14 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: Yes, he does. Since 2016, Henry averages 4.26 yards per attempt in weeks 1-8 with a total of 34 TDs on 910 rushes. In weeks 9-EOS, he averages 5.43 yards per attempt with a total of 41 TDs on 726 rushes.

If there is any consolation, Henry has some really forgettable outings. This isn't necessarily his fault as he is creating for himself really well, but the Titans offensive line is a bottom tier line. He doesn't have much room to work with. 

(11-24-2022, 11:25 AM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: This is what makes me feel better. I feel like the reason the Browns always dominate us running is their line is so good. I feel we struggle more with great lines than stud running backs. We have enough good LBs/CBS/Safeties to take care of Henry.