(01-03-2023, 01:45 AM)BengalB Wrote: You always put the pads on in any situation when someone falls out...then you turn on the AED and it does the rest. 

If you've taken BLS (community type CPR classes) the AED is designed to tell you exactly what to do, in what order, what it is doing and what it needs you to do. It'll say, resume CPR, stop, analyzing, shock advised and/or resume CPR. It'll go through that cycle over and over until help (meaning paramedics with advanced support measures and practice) arrive on scene.

The AED is probably the best medical invention in the last 50 years, if not longer. They are amazing little boxes that have saved countless lives.

(01-03-2023, 01:53 AM)cinci4life Wrote: ESPN talking to a Bills reporter and she said most of the team is still at the stadium in the locker room.

(01-03-2023, 01:43 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: If the worst happens, I don't know if I'd play the rest of the year.

I definitely wouldn't play the rest of the regular season. Even if he recovers, I couldn't play the rest of this and then the final game of the season.

But I'm not a player, so my feelings mean jack all.

(01-03-2023, 01:59 AM)Joelist Wrote: Makes more sense. Why would they leave town if Hamlin is hospitalized here? 

(01-03-2023, 01:43 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: If the worst happens, I don't know if I'd play the rest of the year.

I definitely wouldn't play the rest of the regular season. Even if he recovers, I couldn't play the rest of this and then the final game of the season.

But I'm not a player, so my feelings mean jack all.

(01-03-2023, 02:06 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I just read that his GoFundme toy drive raised $1 million within hours of this.

Blue lights on at Paycor for Damar Hamlin and the Bills family pic.twitter.com/hSFtn6mKah

— Jay Morrison (@JayMorrisonATH) January 3, 2023

(01-03-2023, 01:17 AM)BengalB Wrote: I am glad you are here and I am sorry you experienced that. I imagine it was probably the scariest thing you've experienced, or at least top three.

I am a nurse with nearly a quarter century of care under my belt and this blew my mind tonight. Hearing everyone say "it's gotta be Commotio Cordis" really got on my nerves because it doesn't quite fit. Not saying that isn't what happened but it usually takes a harder impact, like a baseball to the chest or hockey puck iirc. Something traveling fast and that is solid. It also happens to kids/younger athletes and is quite rare as it has to happen at exactly the right time in the exact spot in the exact way.

To put it simply, it takes a few things to align for commotio cordis to occur and iirc, NFL players wear pads that also cover their sternum and ribs, correct? 

Anyways, what I was saying before, in order to ventilate someone successfully, you must paralyze them. In order to not make it the most horrifying experience of their life, and in the process causing them even more harm, medications, likely propofol, tare used to put them asleep prior to paralyzing them for intubatiion. It is a very quick process. I only say propofol because it is commonly used, is able to be titrated up and down and wears off quickly. But it could also be fentanyl and versed...So many other drugs depending on what they think is going on.

With his vital signs being stable, I'd be kind of surprised if this was cardiac related, but he is young and in top physical health, so it could be...Idk. 

If he is not breathing on his own though, it could be a few things but it makes me think of brain or high spinal cord/brain stem injury. Also, in ACLS we're taught repeatedly to think about the H's and T's...

Him standing up after the play, for several seconds. I don't know if he would be able to do that if he was in a lethal rhythm at that moment. We know they started CPR but I have not heard if they actually used the defibrillator or not. They would only use the defibrillator if a shock was advised, for example ventricular tachycardia without a pulse (aka pulseless V tach) or ventricular fibrillation.

Pulseless electrical activity aka PEA and aystole aka no electrical activity and no rhythm at all, require CPR. Electrical issues, aka lethal arrhythmias are normally corrected with electricity (defib) and then medications to keep that rhythm from returning. 

I am not going to speculate at all. I am going to pray for this young man, his teammates, our Bengals and everyone who was watching that game tonight. I am sad to hear that Cincinnati was not being as classy as I thought they were. But some people handle trauma and emotional events better than others. That is all.

(01-03-2023, 01:17 AM)BengalB Wrote: If he is not breathing on his own though, it could be a few things but it makes me think of brain or high spinal cord/brain stem injury. Also, in ACLS we're taught repeatedly to think about the H's and T's...

(01-03-2023, 02:06 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I just read that his GoFundme toy drive raised $1 million within hours of this.

(01-03-2023, 03:15 AM)samhain Wrote: Just donated.  It's over 2 million now.

(01-03-2023, 02:11 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: I wouldn’t expect them to finish this game unless it would be tomorrow which is highly doubtful. But I’d be surprised if the Bills missed next week. I’m curious what they do if the game is cancelled. No contest? Tie? Bengals win since they had the lead?

Anyways let’s hope we hear good news about Hamlin in the morning.