(03-10-2023, 11:12 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I think in Wright you have a swing OT that will be good maybe great.  In Jones you have a 10-year RT that may be next Big Willie.  In Skoronski, you have an 10-year all-pro LG that will be good at LT/RT but maybe not great.  I can't imagine that he would be worse than JW.  

(03-11-2023, 04:29 PM)OSUfan Wrote: I am a huge Ohio State fan but there is a reason that Jones did not participate in the movement drills. I believe in Wright you have the next Big Willie. Jones is going to struggle with speed in the NFL and he is going to extremely limit the schemes you run offensively as he does not have the athleticism to pull and be a big mover in your blocking. If you are a power running team then Jones may well be a good fit for you. Outside of that I would take Wright any day over Jones.

(03-16-2023, 02:55 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Well, with Brown in the fold, I think we can take LT (Harrison) off theboard for us. RT less likely, too, if we are moving Jonah over, but I would not rule that out.

IOL also less likely if we are thinkin of moving Collins/Williams inside.

(03-16-2023, 03:00 AM)Synric Wrote: Maybe. I still wouldn't mind seeing them get someone with some IOL versatility that can compete for a LG late day two like Emil Ekiyor.... If Joe Tippmann is there at 60 it would be hard to pass up especially considering he has a skillset much needed on the OL.

(03-16-2023, 02:23 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: By signing Orlando Brown, Jr, does that suggest the Bengals will be more of a gap scheme running game versus zone? And does that affect the type of Olinemen they may target in the draft?

(03-16-2023, 03:00 AM)Synric Wrote: Maybe. I still wouldn't mind seeing them get someone with some IOL versatility that can compete for a LG late day two like Emil Ekiyor.... If Joe Tippmann is there at 60 it would be hard to pass up especially considering he has a skillset much needed on the OL.

(03-22-2023, 06:54 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We only carried 10 last year. We have 12 signed plus the the PS guys. Though Collins & Jonah are coming off injury. Jonah shouod be good by June but Collins may be out for the beginning of the year. And of course, Jonah has requested a trade post-Orlando Brown signing.

4/5ths of the starters are locked, with RT the question mark with Jonah's trade request and Collins' injury. Neither seems like a long term solution at RT. Jonah immediately balked at playing RT and wanted out. I doubt he would re-up here with Brown at LT moving forward. Collins is signed through 2024. Both guys make a lot of money (over $21 mil combined) and neither was very good last year. Though not awful. Thinking of ways to pay Highins, Burrow, Wilson & others has to start with getting Jonah or Collins or both off the books. Be it this year or next.

Problem is, what we have behind them at OT is either unimpressive (Adeniji, Ford) or unproven (Carman, Smith). Though Varman showed some promise last year, it was all at LT. I don't see us getting rid of both Jonah & Collins this year. One, max. Especially at this late date, it is not like there are fantastic FA options to spend on right now, especially on the OL. We won't leave protecting Burrow up to a draft crapshoot plus Carman MAYBE being able to play RT.  Maybe if we scored a plug & play RT in the draft, but that looks increasingly unlikely.

Among the reserves, I only really see Carman & Scharping as safe. Carman showed enough last year for me to be comfortable with him as the backup LT. And enough for a look-see at RT if Jonah is traded while Collins is out. We may not need to draft a RT, we may already have one. Scharping is the only reserve G we have, with Ford listed as a T and orefering to play there.

I think a draft pick could knock Hill off the roster, and he may be battling with a now healthy Brown anyway. There is not room for all of Adeniji, Smith, and Ford to make it. Though if Collins is on PUP & Jonah is traded, there would be. Ford would have to function as the #4 guard.

We'll have more clarity on Jonah soon. If he stays, I think it is unlikely we take a OT in Rd1. A stud would have to fall to us. Mid rounds, I think TE, CB, DE, RB, WR, and IOL have better value. Though maybe Mauch or Bergerson are worth it. Dawand Jones is a stretch at #28 and gone by #60. If one of the nice IOL guys are there at #60 (Avila, Schmitz, Tipperman, Wypler) I would think hard on it. But we need TE & pass rush more ATM.

(03-21-2023, 02:10 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Is Dawand still 6'8" around 375lbs?

If so. Still #1 in my heart.

(03-22-2023, 07:15 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I look for the team to draft possibly 2 OL in the upcoming draft, as well as sign 2-4 priority UDFAs to the position group.  The team is in a bad spot, as far as having to go into free agency to comprise the bulk of their OL starters.  With a franchise QB about to get paid, as well as attempting to keep not one, but a pair of elite WRs on the team, position groups like OL need to be drafted and developed type of players.

Carman showed enough promise for me to still have hope for him, Volson exceeded my expectations.  The team couldn't have said it louder that Jonah Williams was a failure to launch at LT by going out and buying Brown Jr.  We have two more seasons with Karras and three with Cappa before it will be time to see what the new crop of draft and develop interior OL look like for the Bengals. Even having invested in La'el Collins, RT is still a tremendous question mark heading into this season.  Hopefully between Williams, Ford and Collins they can get it figured out for the next season.  However, I'm still putting my betting money on the Bengals drafting a Tackle in the first 3 rounds, one that they see as being the RT for the next 5-10 years.

Btw, you're doing a great job of keeping us all posted on the position group "as it stands" throughout the offseason process, nice job.  

(03-23-2023, 04:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Don't think he shrank lol

Also, he shouldn't be your #1 solely on being a giant. I like both Darnell Wright and Matt Bergeron a touch better as far as play.

(03-24-2023, 03:06 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Perfect technique only gets you so far.  Its the reason for weight classes in combat sports.

Dude had D1 basketball offers and chose to play football for the Buckeyes, freshman in 2019, covid, then started at RT in 21 and 22  for a top 10 offense both years.

My thing is, there just aren't many of them. We just signed one to play LT, by giving out the biggest signing bonus ever for an OL. If we have a shot to take another giant. When everybody knows protect Joe Burrow = Wins. Then I don't see how you pass on taking another giant to protect Joe Burrow when he plays the other tackle spot where we have a bunch of questions marks.

(03-22-2023, 07:15 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I look for the team to draft possibly 2 OL in the upcoming draft, as well as sign 2-4 priority UDFAs to the position group.  The team is in a bad spot, as far as having to go into free agency to comprise the bulk of their OL starters.  With a franchise QB about to get paid, as well as attempting to keep not one, but a pair of elite WRs on the team, position groups like OL need to be drafted and developed type of players.

Carman showed enough promise for me to still have hope for him, Volson exceeded my expectations.  The team couldn't have said it louder that Jonah Williams was a failure to launch at LT by going out and buying Brown Jr.  We have two more seasons with Karras and three with Cappa before it will be time to see what the new crop of draft and develop interior OL look like for the Bengals. Even having invested in La'el Collins, RT is still a tremendous question mark heading into this season.  Hopefully between Williams, Ford and Collins they can get it figured out for the next season.  However, I'm still putting my betting money on the Bengals drafting a Tackle in the first 3 rounds, one that they see as being the RT for the next 5-10 years.

Btw, you're doing a great job of keeping us all posted on the position group "as it stands" throughout the offseason process, nice job.  

(03-24-2023, 03:20 PM)Whatever Wrote: I don't see the Bengals adding potentially 6 OL to the 15 they already have.  Going into TC with 20+ OL doesn't seem feasible.  

Signing depth guys like Ford and Scharping also seems to indicate that they aren't planning on drafting depth there.  Obviously, it depends on how their board falls, but looking at how FA has fallen, it looks like it would have to be a value pick.

Brown was not a planned signing.  Per Pollack, at the last minute, Duke told him, "Hey, take a look at this guy.". Pollack said adding a big ticket T wasn't even on his radar.  My guess is that they pounced because the FA T market is extremely soft and they had cap to burn after losing Bell.

Looking at the current roster, those draft picks start getting spoken for rather quickly when we need a TE1, plus a TE2 or 3, a S to compete with/supplant Scott, RB2, depth at outside CB, plus wiggle room for value drops.