(05-26-2023, 10:56 AM)SladeX Wrote: I want the 5 best OL on the field, given that they are suited for the role. If that means LC at LG, Carman at RT, and Jonah at swing, and Volson’s potential riding the bench, so f***ing be it. I don’t give 2 craps about Jonahs salary.

(05-26-2023, 09:45 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I agree. Whatever the best 5 OL is so be it. Hopefully we get the right mix out there. I'm actually pumped thinking about Collins at LG or if Volson earns the spot. I also think Jonah could really benefit from playing next to a solid Guard like Kappa.

(05-26-2023, 05:54 PM)samhain Wrote: Yeah, La'el Coillins had knee surgery, too.  He was at the practices.  

The Boyd situation has nothing to do with Jonah.  Never demanded a trade or indicated that he wanted out due to being 3rd receiver.  

You're making things up.

I don't have to understand shit to know simple correlation.

You request a trade because you don't want to be in your current situation.  

Nobody is whining about anything.  I doubt many fans would care if he were traded and they unloaded his salary/got a decent pick.

Also, speaking of amateur, you seem to be playing pretend psychologist assuming he and his agent have no ill will toward the team.  HTF would you know?  He just lost a guaranteed shot at a sweetheart contract at LT when Brown came in and took the job.  The only reason his agent clammed up is because nobody would give enough in trade to get him moved to another team.

(05-25-2023, 09:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is great news. A fully healthy LC has the pedigree to be the 2nd best olineman on this team.

(05-29-2023, 03:23 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: the problem is he does not seem to stay healthy and from what i saw last year, his best days seem behind him, hopefully he will prove me wrong on both accounts.. I think Williams will be the starter when the dust settles regardless. 

(05-29-2023, 03:23 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: the problem is he does not seem to stay healthy and from what i saw last year, his best days seem behind him, hopefully he will prove me wrong on both accounts.. I think Williams will be the starter when the dust settles regardless. 

(05-27-2023, 08:49 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Another amateur response.

Not sure why you let this situation get in your feelings, the request was likely expected and not at all unreasonable.

Jonah has done nothing wrong, he had his agent respectfully request a trade because he thinks that is best for himself and his family.  Personally, I think fans that slam a guy for that request comes across as  kinda selfish.

I would love for Jonah to have attended OTAs, but it wasn't required.  If Jonah comes out with disrespectful language or threatens a hold out then I have no issues with people going negative, but this projection is so petty.  Multiple trade requests are made on every team, every year, we just dont see them.

(05-30-2023, 08:59 AM)PDub80 Wrote: I can't argue that Jonah Williams has every right to request a trade and lookout for himself - epecially in a contract year - but it was incredibly dissapointing to see that as his reaction.

It just comes across as arrogant and delusional. Every one of his co-workers has been on the "Whatever it takes" to win wagon and put aside personal things for the team. Jonah refusing to get on board is a bad look. He's a mid tier LT at best, oft injured, gave up the most sacks in the league last year.

He also refused a position switch to C at Alabama. He's looking like a tool at this stage as far as teammates go.

However, to circle back around to your point, the guy has every damn right to pursue his own interests. And I agree that when it's time to show up to work, he should in good faith do so as far as work ethic goes.

(05-30-2023, 09:06 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I just don't see it this way. He sees himself as a Left Tackle and wants to play left tackle. He lost his job here, so he wanted to see if he could go play left tackle somewhere else. I don't think that is something he should be chastised for. If you work for a construction company and you are an electrician, and all of a sudden, your boss says "we hired a new electrician, so we want you to be a plumber" are you going to criticize that guy for looking for an electrician job elsewhere? 

Now, if he continues to stay here, because he could not find a trade partner, and continues to take his salary, then he should be fully expected to put his head down and work to be the best right tackle he can be. I think he will, but it remains to be seen. 

(05-30-2023, 09:06 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I just don't see it this way. He sees himself as a Left Tackle and wants to play left tackle. He lost his job here, so he wanted to see if he could go play left tackle somewhere else. I don't think that is something he should be chastised for. If you work for a construction company and you are an electrician, and all of a sudden, your boss says "we hired a new electrician, so we want you to be a plumber" are you going to criticize that guy for looking for an electrician job elsewhere? 

Now, if he continues to stay here, because he could not find a trade partner, and continues to take his salary, then he should be fully expected to put his head down and work to be the best right tackle he can be. I think he will, but it remains to be seen. 

(05-30-2023, 08:59 AM)PDub80 Wrote: I can't argue that Jonah Williams has every right to request a trade and lookout for himself - epecially in a contract year - but it was incredibly dissapointing to see that as his reaction.

It just comes across as arrogant and delusional. Every one of his co-workers has been on the "Whatever it takes" to win wagon and put aside personal things for the team. Jonah refusing to get on board is a bad look. He's a mid tier LT at best, oft injured, gave up the most sacks in the league last year.

(05-30-2023, 09:06 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I just don't see it this way. He sees himself as a Left Tackle and wants to play left tackle. He lost his job here, so he wanted to see if he could go play left tackle somewhere else. I don't think that is something he should be chastised for. If you work for a construction company and you are an electrician, and all of a sudden, your boss says "we hired a new electrician, so we want you to be a plumber" are you going to criticize that guy for looking for an electrician job elsewhere? 

Now, if he continues to stay here, because he could not find a trade partner, and continues to take his salary, then he should be fully expected to put his head down and work to be the best right tackle he can be. I think he will, but it remains to be seen. 

(05-30-2023, 02:15 PM)casear2727 Wrote: You absolutely contradict yourself from the first sentence to the 2nd.  I am also confused with how it came across.... it was a tweet by his agent.  A very basic "seeking a trade" tweet.  Jonah has not made any negative comments whatsoever.  "Arrogant and delusional" simply does not make any sense to me.