(12-20-2023, 05:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: *&#$ Corey Dillon coming around now acting like he's still part of the family. The man left throwing his equipment into the stands and badmouthed the Bengals for decades. Now that they're winning, he wants to be part of it again. Child please, go away.

(12-22-2023, 11:15 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Nah, by that logic Ted Ginn Jr had more total yards in the NFL than Chad.

Which is one of the elements I used to dispute the assertion that "it's not even close" between JB and CD.

Just liked I'd use return skills when comparing Antonio Bryant to other greats.

(12-22-2023, 01:46 PM)Whatever Wrote: Dillon averaged 26.6 yards/KR as a Bengal.  Brooks only averaged a meager 17.0 as a Bengal.  Brooks' best year for KR average as a Bengal was '87, and he would have only tied for 14th best if he had enough returns to qualify.  In Dillon's rookie season, he averages 30.3 yards/return, which would have been #1 if he had enough to qualify.  

The comparison here is laughable, because Brooks was a mediocre return man even at his best.  Dillon averaged nearly 10 yards a return more as a Bengal than Brooks.  The only reason Brooks has more raw stats there is he was expendable enough to the offense to risk more on KR duty, while Dillon was too key to risk injury.  

(12-22-2023, 09:18 AM)Sled21 Wrote: They actually changed the game when Curtis came along. People putting up all time teams that never saw half the players play is kind of a lame game anyway. They want to say Chase is the greatest WR ever on the Bengals, even though he doesn't have the numbers yet. But they do not mention Cook, because he didn't play long enough to get the numbers. Players like Tommy Casanova are rarely ever talked about. If you didn't see them all play, it's impossible to do the list. You can't go by numbers alone because the game has evolved so much. I've watched them ALL play, and I can't do the list because I forget some of them.

(12-23-2023, 12:40 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: 100% agree with you.

I'm not old enough to have seen Curtis play (well not old enough to remember seeing him play) but from people who did see him and the footage I can find, everyone says the same thing that you said. The game changed because of him. Chad, A.J. even Chase don't have that attached to their names. Guy was something else, sad I didn't get to witness it.

(12-22-2023, 01:51 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I get it...You like Dillon better; I simply disputed the "not even close" assertion . But while you're White Knighting CD against Brooks you might not want to introduce Average into the discussion or I may consider the comparison "laughable". 

(12-23-2023, 12:40 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: 100% agree with you.

I'm not old enough to have seen Curtis play (well not old enough to remember seeing him play) but from people who did see him and the footage I can find, everyone says the same thing that you said. The game changed because of him. Chad, A.J. even Chase don't have that attached to their names. Guy was something else, sad I didn't get to witness it.

(12-23-2023, 03:19 PM)Whatever Wrote: What average would you like to discuss?  The average where Dillon has the best average rushing yards per game in team history at 75.3 and Brooks is only 7th at 54.6, 20 yards a game behind?   I mean, when you don't average as many ypg as Benjarvis Green -Ellis, do you really have a good claim for best in team history?  

But, hey, Brooks does hold both the career and single season team records for fumbles by a non-QB with 31 and 9, respectively.  I think a lot of people forget how bad of a fumbler he was.

(12-23-2023, 04:11 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Ike had a gear nobody else had. Defenders were mugging him constantly. Kenny and Ike on those bombs were a thing of beauty!!

(12-23-2023, 05:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: How could anyone consider Issac as an All-Time Bengal? He averaged less YPG than Darnay Scott.

Of course, I'm joking. Issac was in a league by himself. He was the OC (Original Cheetah)