(11-11-2015, 03:49 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Not totally relevant to the discussion, but i've never seen Dalton throw the ball 60 yards in the air until this year.

Just something i noticed.

(11-11-2015, 10:08 AM)djs7685 Wrote: I wasn't worried that he didn't have a total cannon arm, but the "zip" on some routes didn't seem to be there before and also the touch pass that we've seen more of in 2015 and deep accuracy have just been fantastic compared to what they were before. You don't HAVE to have all of those things to be an elite QB, but they certainly help, and if Andy keeps it up they'll help him get into that category.

I consider his past issues in the pocket to be part of his skill set, and that was one of, if not THE biggest thing keeping me from believing that he would have a good shot at being a top QB in the league.

Like you said, he's definitely a smart guy, so I didn't question him much there, but I'm glad to see that he fixed some of the glaring issues that I always had an issue with throughout his professional career. I can't say that I've been one of his huge supporters and fanboys, but I can definitely say that I'm happy that he's doing what he is right now. I've always hoped he would improve and I've always been rooting for him (no matter who the Bengals QB is, I'll root for the guy), I just didn't think he was going to turn it on like this. He's playing some excellent football.

(11-11-2015, 10:56 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: we might have to start talking about his next contract $$$$ sooner than later lol

(11-11-2015, 04:17 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Why? He has a contract that runs through 2020.

(11-11-2015, 03:59 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: what about that hail mary vs the ravens in 2013?

(11-11-2015, 04:22 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: And I don't picture Andy as the type to cause problems over a contract. Remember, Andy gets a pretty substantial increase in pay if he wins a playoff game.

He should be perfectly content with his contract for awhile.

(11-13-2015, 05:53 PM)Junglejuice Wrote: He is slated to be paid as the 20th highest paid QB in the league next year.
Barring winning the superbowl even then he will be around the 15th.


While Andy is a team guy I would imagine there will be plenty of chirping in his ear.
Fair pay is fair pay and with 5 straight playoff appearances and the franchise records he holds and heaven forbid they make a playoff run this year I could see the guy thinking he is worth more than 14m a year.

(11-13-2015, 05:53 PM)Junglejuice Wrote: He is slated to be paid as the 20th highest paid QB in the league next year.
Barring winning the superbowl even then he will be around the 15th.


While Andy is a team guy I would imagine there will be plenty of chirping in his ear.
Fair pay is fair pay and with 5 straight playoff appearances and the franchise records he holds and heaven forbid they make a playoff run this year I could see the guy thinking he is worth more than 14m a year.

(11-13-2015, 08:44 PM)BengalChris Wrote: He'll still be the highest paid Bengal while not being the best player on the team. So I figure he should be happy with the mega millions he's getting paid.

Besides, we know exactly how Mikey B deals with holdout malcontents: he'll be traded to whoever will cough up the most picks that's not in the AFC North. The Bengals will then keep their surrounding talent and bring in another signal caller and move on as if nothing happened. Been there and seen that.

If you think it would go any other way, then think again.

(11-13-2015, 05:53 PM)Junglejuice Wrote: He is slated to be paid as the 20th highest paid QB in the league next year.
Barring winning the superbowl even then he will be around the 15th.


While Andy is a team guy I would imagine there will be plenty of chirping in his ear.
Fair pay is fair pay and with 5 straight playoff appearances and the franchise records he holds and heaven forbid they make a playoff run this year I could see the guy thinking he is worth more than 14m a year.

(11-14-2015, 03:28 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'd bet my membership that this won't be a problem for at least 2-3 years. QB's just don't hold out often, if at all. I'm not exactly sure why, but I'd guess it has to do with their images as team guys. Also, they have longer careers than any other position, with top QB's often playing deep into their 30's. This allows for more chances to cash in with big contracts, and makes holding out for the big payday unnessecary.

Regardless of where Dalton's contract currently ranks (I wouldn't mind seeing a link just out of curiosity), it's more than enough to keep him content for a few seasons, especially if he wins 1-2 playoff games. Again, QB's don't hold out. It's a bad look. He'll cash in again soon enough, and the market will only get bigger and bigger. It'd probably pay to wait anyway.

(11-13-2015, 05:53 PM)Junglejuice Wrote: He is slated to be paid as the 20th highest paid QB in the league next year.
Barring winning the superbowl even then he will be around the 15th.


While Andy is a team guy I would imagine there will be plenty of chirping in his ear.
Fair pay is fair pay and with 5 straight playoff appearances and the franchise records he holds and heaven forbid they make a playoff run this year I could see the guy thinking he is worth more than 14m a year.

(11-14-2015, 03:28 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'd bet my membership that this won't be a problem for at least 2-3 years. QB's just don't hold out often, if at all. I'm not exactly sure why, but I'd guess it has to do with their images as team guys. Also, they have longer careers than any other position, with top QB's often playing deep into their 30's. This allows for more chances to cash in with big contracts, and makes holding out for the big payday unnessecary.

Regardless of where Dalton's contract currently ranks (I wouldn't mind seeing a link just out of curiosity), it's more than enough to keep him content for a few seasons, especially if he wins 1-2 playoff games. Again, QB's don't hold out. It's a bad look. He'll cash in again soon enough, and the market will only get bigger and bigger. It'd probably pay to wait anyway.

(11-14-2015, 11:22 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: True, but he would make more than HOF QB Tom Brady

Also, MB honored a contract this year to Leon Hall (clearly overpaid at 9.6 million cap hit) so he has ammo on his side honoring bad contracts for the team, it should work both ways.

I don't see AD as the kind of guy to destroy the team's capability to pay others for the team roster to stay strong, but I could be wrong

(11-14-2015, 11:22 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: True, but he would make more than HOF QB Tom Brady

Also, MB honored a contract this year to Leon Hall (clearly overpaid at 9.6 million cap hit) so he has ammo on his side honoring bad contracts for the team, it should work both ways.

I don't see AD as the kind of guy to destroy the team's capability to pay others for the team roster to stay strong, but I could be wrong