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RE: Happy Tampering Day - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 10:00 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Give me two of these guys and I'm happy.
1. Brandon Scherff: 4.5%
2. Kevin Zeitler: 6.0%
3. Teven Jenkins: 6.4%
T4. Will Hernandez: 7.1%
T4. Mekhi Becton: 7.1% (only 2024 snaps at OG)
6. Dalton Risner: 8.0%
Nice, I know Scherff and Zeit are older, but they stay healthy and would be good gets for a couple years before they fall off.
But give me any two of those Guards and we are much better off than last year. I like the Defensive moves and think Trey will be back but
Guard is still the area of concern to me with Cappa cut and Volson sucking last season.
RE: BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 01:09 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: We should trade Burrow and Chase, too. Their value will never be higher.
Who needs great players when you can get a draft pick? A bird in the hand is worth less than potentially a bird in the bush, as the saying goes. If we get really lucky we can turn those draft picks into an MVP candidate, Triple Crown WR, and Sack Title DE!
Just adding this for you TLL...
The trade would of happened I think by now. Trey will be back thank God. You are right, no draft pick is going to replace any of these guys.
(03-12-2025, 10:05 AM)Ell Prez Wrote: Will that first or second round pick out perform Trey over a 2 year period? Aren’t we in win now mode? Or are we building to win 4-5 years down the line?
I 100% agree we haven’t improved our team at all this off season, but trading a mid teen sack DE, our best defensive player by a mile, completely worsens our team. Would a defensive rookie of the year be better than what Trey brings? The answer is No.
Truth.
RE: BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded - Luvnit2 - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 02:35 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Just adding this for you TLL...
The trade would of happened I think by now. Trey will be back thank God. You are right, no draft pick is going to replace any of these guys.
Truth.
The only was they trade Trey is if they are not playing to win in 2025.
Trey should not go anywhere.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pulses - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 07:26 AM)Synric Wrote: Not anymore. The Bengals didn't maximize cap space with their contracts. For example TJ Slaton will have a bigger cap hit in 2025 than Osa Odighizuwa.
They probabably did that in case Slaton isn't doing any good or one of the young guys gets better they can cut him loose.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - Luvnit2 - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 02:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That was exactly my point.
If they're going to restructure and convert more of the base salary to bonus, they will need to pay that out immediately upon restructure.
They are going to pay out the base each week of the 2025 regular season now. They would pay months earlier, but no change to the guarantee. There are other methods as well. I showed one earlier. It is below. Teams simply add voidable years to the deal and it moves the cap to later years (the voidable years). No money changes hands, it is just a method used by lots of teams to create cap room immedialtely. A way to kick the can down the road.
There are other methods as well for an initail contract or the new contracts we are creating in 2025. It all hinges on the Bengals pholosophy to decide to push more cap money into the future.
As I have pointed out, Bengals started the FA period with other 230 million dollars for 2026 which is top 4 in the league I believe. Teams like the Pats and Bear hae more, but they have spent a lot of 2025 money. That matters as Spotrac calculates the 2026 cap number on 2025 carry over + any current contracts.
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The Bills have restructured defensive tackle Ed Oliver's contract, per sources. The move saves just over $10M in cap space with void years added to the end of the deal as http://overthecap.com documented.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - Luvnit2 - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 05:22 PM)pulses Wrote: They probabably did that in case Slaton isn't doing any good or one of the young guys gets better they can cut him loose.
He may have. Spotrac and other sites do some speculation on how the team structured the contract. Take Gesicki for example. It was reported he got 12 million at signing. But to get 12 million, he would have to be given a huge bonus. It states. the base is 5.5 million and a bonus of 2.1 million. That is only 7.6 million, if report of 12 million is correct, likely more bonus money (which they can push cap hit portion to year 3 if they desire) and less base.
The contracts have not been fully vetted yet so many will be different once contract is filed and validated.
I would be very suprised if Gesicki has a 7.7 million cap hit in 2025 as it is listed right now. It could be same for Slaten. As we know Bengals FO is tight lipped and agents don't care how a team structures a contract and is not privvy to that inforation making it an educated guess of strcuture by these sites.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pulses - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: He may have. Spotrac and other sites do some speculation on how the team structured the contract. Take Gesicki for example. It was reported he got 12 million at signing. But to get 12 million, he would have to be given a huge bonus. It states. the base is 5.5 million and a bonus of 2.1 million. That is only 7.6 million, if report of 12 million is correct, likely more bonus money (which they can push cap hit portion to year 3 if they desire) and less base.
The contracts have not been fully vetted yet so many will be different once contract is filed and validated.
I would be very suprised if Gesicki has a 7.7 million cap hit in 2025 as it is listed right now. It could be same for Slaten. As we know Bengals FO is tight lipped and agents don't care how a team structures a contract and is not privvy to that inforation making it an educated guess of strcuture by these sites.
They need to get Teven Jenkins signed today !!!!
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pally - 03-12-2025
The #Colts and RB Khalil Herbert have agreed on a one-year contract, sources tell me and @RapSheet.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 12, 2025
Deal negotiated by @EquitySports VP of Football Samantha Sankovich and CEO Chris Cabott. pic.twitter.com/b5BY85P2N7
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pally - 03-12-2025
As the Bengals search for a starting guard continues, I can report that Mekhi Becton isn’t an option as of right now.
— Kelsey Conway (@KelseyLConway) March 12, 2025
After years of linking him to the Bengals, it doesn’t appear to be a fit on either side.
The team is interested in Teven Jenkins, but he has other suitors.…
RE: Happy Tampering Day - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:07 PM)pally Wrote:The #Colts and RB Khalil Herbert have agreed on a one-year contract, sources tell me and @RapSheet.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 12, 2025
Deal negotiated by @EquitySports VP of Football Samantha Sankovich and CEO Chris Cabott. pic.twitter.com/b5BY85P2N7
Man, wanted us to bring back Herbert. Definitely have to draft a RB now.
(03-12-2025, 06:08 PM)pally Wrote:As the Bengals search for a starting guard continues, I can report that Mekhi Becton isn’t an option as of right now.
— Kelsey Conway (@KelseyLConway) March 12, 2025
After years of linking him to the Bengals, it doesn’t appear to be a fit on either side.
The team is interested in Teven Jenkins, but he has other suitors.…
So Becton is out for what ever reason, must not fit what they want to run on Offense scheme wise. Teven Jenkins and another Guard please...
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pally - 03-12-2025
this one was always a pipe dream
Source: Former Pro-Bowl guard Kevin Zeitler is signing a one-year $9 million deal with the Tennessee Titans. pic.twitter.com/sBPuQ00qFl
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2025
RE: Happy Tampering Day - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:17 PM)pally Wrote: this one was always a pipe dream
Source: Former Pro-Bowl guard Kevin Zeitler is signing a one-year $9 million deal with the Tennessee Titans. pic.twitter.com/sBPuQ00qFl
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2025
That is spendy for a 35 year old Zeit.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - NUGDUKWE - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That is spendy for a 35 year old Zeit.
I don't think so. Pay that dude. We are worthless man. I was really hoping we could've signed him to a two year deal. I'm just gonna predict another Burrow injury year now.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - Clark W Griswold - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:34 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I don't think so. Pay that dude. We are worthless man. I was really hoping we could've signed him to a two year deal. I'm just gonna predict another Burrow injury year now.
I hope not but even then you have to look on the bright side - more tv coverage of Brownings GF!
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pulses - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:12 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Man, wanted us to bring back Herbert. Definitely have to draft a RB now.
So Becton is out for what ever reason, must not fit what they want to run on Offense scheme wise. Teven Jenkins and another Guard please...
Becton is probably wanting big money and he's only been healthy for one season. I wouldn't pay it.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - SunsetBengal - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:42 PM)pulses Wrote: Becton is probably wanting big money and he's only been healthy for one season. I wouldn't pay it.
Bingo, he likely wants to be paid to the standard of his draft position, but those days are long gone, just like his time as an NFL Tackle.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - Luvnit2 - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:42 PM)pulses Wrote: Becton is probably wanting big money and he's only been healthy for one season. I wouldn't pay it.
I like him. I would be happy if we sgned him for 4 years, 56 million with 30 million guaranteed at signing
If he want more, I would pass. I also don't get a vote.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pulses - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Bingo, he likely wants to be paid to the standard of his draft position, but those days are long gone, just like his time as an NFL Tackle.He's probably gonna have to take a 2 yr deal and prove himself and then get paid big money.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - pulses - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:47 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I like him. I would be happy if we sgned him for 4 years, 56 million with 30 million guaranteed at signing4 and 56 is way to rich for my blood for him but i would pay that to Jenkins. He's a much better guard too.
If he want more, I would pass. I also don't get a vote.
RE: Happy Tampering Day - FormerlyBengalRugby - 03-12-2025
(03-12-2025, 06:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That is spendy for a 35 year old Zeit.
Maybe.
But I would love to see the Bengals spend 18 million to get guards that competent to protect Burrow, extend his health and career, and improve the running game. Not to mention opening up the draft.
Look at it like that, and 18M is more than reasonable, maybe even on the cheap side?
Something to consider.