(09-24-2018, 10:01 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: No team in the league is going to cut a top 10 pick in his second year.

(09-24-2018, 04:33 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Know I walked closer to TV using choice words aimed directly at Ross, !@#%$&*^%#@!#%^!!!

(09-24-2018, 07:17 PM)sandwedge Wrote: It will be interesting to see how Merv deals with this. Try to keep him confident or put him on the bench?

(09-24-2018, 07:24 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Even though it's not the popular opinion today, I agree. He's not going to get it, if he's sulking on the bench. I'm sure an ass chewing happened though.

(09-24-2018, 04:43 AM)Brimey Wrote: I'm conflicted on that I think. I appreciate Lap making guys take responsibility, but I also don't know what Ross could have done on the ball that AD threw. It's not Ross fault that 18 got hurt and the D gave up 200 yards rushing

(09-24-2018, 06:56 AM)Goalpost Wrote: While Ross didn't play well, I blame the defense more for yesterday's loss.  230 yards on the ground, a broken pass play for a TD, etc.

Also, burning time outs might have cost them points at the end of the 1st half.  

There was plenty of blame to go around besides Ross.

(09-24-2018, 08:29 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Agree that benching him solves nothing. But get the kid a sports psychologist at least!

(09-24-2018, 11:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Why is no one talking about the awful ball Andy threw? That thing was a duck and was begging to be picked off.

Ross did stop on his route, but if Andy threw it to the post, where it should have been, then that ball would never have been intercepted. Its both of their faults.

(09-24-2018, 11:53 AM)Au165 Wrote: It was the same route he threw to Eiffert earlier in the game that he made that great contested catch on. It wasn't a post, the sight adjustment was to stay on the seam. The CB had inside leverage so throwing the seam back shoulder provided body protection to the ball. Dalton knew the adjustment and it's why he was pissed on the sideline, Ross didn't and just stopped. AJ, Boyd, Eiffert all make the corrected adjustment on that ball. There is a reason Dalton keeps getting intercepted throwing to Ross, he isn't making the correct sight adjustments as the play develops. Contrary to what most people think routes have built in mid play changes based on what the CB does. The team basically has standards that when CB does X you change to Y, but in this situation you do Z. To me is just seems Ross doesn't really know what he is supposed to be doing in each situation.

(09-24-2018, 06:43 PM)kdgjr Wrote: I can't figure out how to post this as video...this is awful...

Check out the instagram video down the page...

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2018/09/24/john-ross-cincinnati-bengals-marvin-lewis-andy-dalton/1411148002/

(09-24-2018, 12:20 PM)Au165 Wrote: To go ahead and expand on this, yes while the route was a post at snap the issue is what was the defense? To me it looked like cover 3 which means that inside seam can't take the post because there is a backside safety rolling under it out of frame. Andy, a veteran, sees cover 3 with a post and knows you don't throw the post on 3 you throw the seam. He is expecting Ross an NFL WR to know this and carry the post into a seam and do what every other team does and attack cover 3 up the seams.

Quick update: Watched again #28 is in fact a safety so that was cover 3. While it looks like he could have beat the safety at the end based on where he was when Dalton saw the safety roll before throwing he knows that becomes a seam adjustment.

(09-24-2018, 03:31 PM)thillan Wrote: I don’t get it guys.. why can’t both Dalton AND Ross be in the wrong on that INT? The first one I get, but he did force feed it to him still.

But the second one? Dalton threw a bad ball, and Ross quit on his route.

(09-25-2018, 01:37 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The ball was right on target. Ross allowed himself to get bumped off his route and he gave up on it. That's the only reason he was to the right of where the ball was picked off. They showed a replay from the end zone angle and it was obvious what happened.

My question is, why is no one talking about the missed punt block for Hubbard. That was the punt right before that series. 

(09-24-2018, 11:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Why is no one talking about the awful ball Andy threw? That thing was a duck and was begging to be picked off.

Ross did stop on his route, but if Andy threw it to the post, where it should have been, then that ball would never have been intercepted. Its both of their faults.

(09-25-2018, 03:01 AM)CornerBlitz Wrote: Look I think Dalton had a solid game, for that matter he's had a solid season, but that throw was not on target.  With that said, Ross could have made a better effort to go after the ball once he realized that Dalton was off. 

(09-25-2018, 02:14 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: It wasn't cover 3, it was cover 4. The safety jumped on the slot (Boyd)--along with 2 other defenders lol--who was running an out (a pass they've completed a couple times this season) leaving Ross 1 on 1 with the corner and inside position. 

(09-24-2018, 06:08 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Hmm, I neither love nor hate him.  It's just notably difficult to follow a game on audio alone when he's screaming over the play by play, that's for sure.  Again, I'll say it was somewhat amusing attempting to discern what happened on the play based upon the tone of his bellowing.

(09-25-2018, 01:37 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The ball was right on target. Ross allowed himself to get bumped off his route and he gave up on it. That's the only reason he was to the right of where the ball was picked off. They showed a replay from the end zone angle and it was obvious what happened.

My question is, why is no one talking about the missed punt block for Hubbard. That was the punt right before that series. 

(09-25-2018, 03:52 AM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: To me the bomb that was thrown to Ross along the right hashmarks was even more disturbing. He actually used his speed n ran past the rookie cornerback (an actual first year player) had about two steps on the guy (Johnson).  Dalton threw a perfect pass right in front of Ross but for some unknown reason he didn’t extend his arms out.  I was so pissed off.  How about use that xtra gear to get to it.  Or maybe dive for the damn ball.  But the ball was like a foot away. I’m not sure if his vision is messed up or he can’t track a ball not sure what his issue is.  Luckily for Ross they never showed a replay of the play and showed footage of his 40 yard dash which he got hurt in.  He’s lucky or more people would be talking about that play.

(09-24-2018, 08:26 PM)thillan Wrote: Lol, are we seriously going to just ignore how much John Ross has opened up the field for us just by his speed? Safeties are terrified of getting burnt by this dude right now.

But fine guys, go ahead and take him out. I'd love to see if Tyler Boyd is as open as he's been without Ross on the field.

Amazes me that we think taking Ross out as a punishment will somehow help this team. Dude has speed and explosion that our other receivers can't match.