(09-15-2015, 03:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did want to sign Suh and so did others seeing as he was the #1 FA prospect in the NFL, I also wanted Hardy who I considered #2

Because we don't have the checkbook?????????????? Or a vote, we were overruled.

(09-15-2015, 03:31 PM)djs7685 Wrote: He didn't ask why we didn't sign Suh, he asked why we (the fans) didn't WANT to sign Suh.

We get it, we don't have the checkbook (what is this, 1997??), we were overruled, we don't make the decisions, we aren't the front office, blah blah blah. Yeah man, we know. We've known it even before you came on here to remind us 500 times. Everybody is 100% well aware of the fact that we don't actually make the decisions, but we all play armchair GM/owner. Yeesh.

(09-15-2015, 03:39 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I was making a bit of a joke or being hyperbolic and all that.  My main issue with this is that people are getting a little too worked up about it.  I don't think it was a dastardly terrible thing to do, but people acting like hitting people after the whistle is what awesome teams do and it's going to make us into some magical juggernaut that walks into Heinz Field, slams Pig Ben into the ground, rips off his helmet and then shoves it up his rectum is a bit flawed.

Or maybe we will do it.  I just think people are really overestimating the link between beating up on a rookie WR and actually forcing our game-related will upon opponents.

(09-15-2015, 03:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did want to sign Suh and so did others seeing as he was the #1 FA prospect in the NFL, I also wanted Hardy who I considered #2

Because we don't have the checkbook?????????????? Or a vote, we were overruled.

(09-15-2015, 03:39 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I was making a bit of a joke or being hyperbolic and all that.  My main issue with this is that people are getting a little too worked up about it.  I don't think it was a dastardly terrible thing to do, but people acting like hitting people after the whistle is what awesome teams do and it's going to make us into some magical juggernaut that walks into Heinz Field, slams Pig Ben into the ground, rips off his helmet and then shoves it up his rectum is a bit flawed.

Or maybe we will do it.  I just think people are really overestimating the link between beating up on a rookie WR and actually forcing our game-related will upon opponents.  I'd rather dominate a team via Hill running all over them to kill the clock when everyone knows we are going to do it and is powerless to stop us than see someone slam someone (who isn't Harrison or Pig Ben) into the ground after the whistle.

(09-15-2015, 03:41 PM)djs7685 Wrote: Oh I know. It's just even though you made a joke, it got a serious response that I've seen dozens of times from the same person.

It's annoying to hear how "we don't make the decisions!!!" for everything whenever every single person here is posting with that already understood. I don't think it needs repeated so many times when we all get it. There's nobody to my knowledge that posts here and believes they are part of the Bengals' decision making.

(09-15-2015, 03:42 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I addressed upfront the "we" was not accurate in all cases as I wanted him signed.

(09-15-2015, 03:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm not talking about you specifically.  There is a pervasive notion that anyone who is available (even though we won't get anyone of great note, let's be honest) will ruin our team.  Peyton Manning, Jim Harbaugh, Suh, Andre Johnson etc...anyone who is available is treated with some sort of fear that they are going to throw this team into a black hole.  I wouldn't mind that so much if people didn't seem to want our current players and coaches to simply morph into people they are not.

(09-15-2015, 03:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm not talking about you specifically.  There is a pervasive notion that anyone who is available (even though we won't get anyone of great note, let's be honest) will ruin our team.  Peyton Manning, Jim Harbaugh, Suh, Andre Johnson etc...anyone who is available is treated with some sort of fear that they are going to throw this team into a black hole.  I wouldn't mind that so much if people didn't seem to want our current players and coaches to simply morph into people they are not.

EDIT:  Where does this stuff end, by the way?  I don't recall many Bengals fans hanging on Tomlin's junk when he was trying to trip that Raven's player, nor would I assume Bengals fans are NOT badmouthing the Steelers for having a coach that allegedly assaulted a Patriots fan.

(09-15-2015, 04:01 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: I have always looked at this as almost a defense mechanism.  Most fans know the big names are not going to be brought in, so they adopt a "who wants them anyway" attitude.  Kind of like the guy who brings up how much gas the new Corvette ZR1 goes through...

(09-15-2015, 04:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yep, we are free-agent sour grapeists.

It extends to players on the team and those who left, etc.  After the 2010 season it was clear Chad and TO (and probably Benson and Marvin) were going to be gone.  That's ok, it was their fault, and Palmer played great with Simpson and Caldwell so that was encouraging.  Then it turned out Benson and Marvin were staying and Palmer wanted out so Benson and Marvin were no longer part of the problem and it was all about Chad, TO, and Palmer running the team into the ground.  People even accused Palmer of twisting Mikey's arm and getting TO here (I suppose he convinced Mikey that Bryant's knee was medically sound, as well) because he was the GM too I guess.

Either way, it's all about placing the blame on those who aren't staying.  I assure you if Dalton refused to sign an extension and went to the Texans he would become darn near the one and only reason we lost 4 playoff games in a row.  It's just human nature.

(09-15-2015, 05:00 PM)Wyche Wrote: Wait....I thought it was ALREADY established that Dalton was the sole purpose of our playoff losses....


.....but seriously, I'd have been all for Harbaugh, Manning, Suh.....etc.

(09-15-2015, 03:06 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I suggest you expand your horizons.

I watch all or portions of all games every week.

It is obvious you do not.

I will not do your homework for you.

You are wrong, admit it and move on. We are all wrong and not perfect.

(09-14-2015, 01:11 PM)Okeana Wrote: I'm already tired of hearing about this and its only been a day.

On the topic of Jones and Iloka.  I frankly don't care.  Jones got chopped to the neck and saw red.  These people complaining about Jones being a disgrace obviously have never been in his shoes and in this situation before.  You're loaded with adrenaline playing every single down in a violent fast paced sport and you get chopped to the neck? what did you expect him to do ? It doesn't matter what you expect him to do because you're not the moral authority on all things.

George Iloka's foul was a mistake, but only because of his body position.  If he does that a foot away and not on him it probably doesn't get called.  Even if it does I can't fault the dude for living in the moment.  Its what makes these players great.


If anything the travesty of this game was the call on Kirkpatrick.  Lets be clear i dont care just because it was a Bengals game, but this is a pure bullshit call that has a trickle down effect in this league.  Even that waste of space Chris Simms said afterwards " The League is removing this from the game " .  I am sorry, but when has shit talking not been allowed on a football field ? This is part of the mental warfare of football that makes the game great.

(09-15-2015, 11:23 PM)Nasty Nati Wrote: Ya, no respect for you after this....... That's a b itch ass move right there.... Toughen up pu$$, this is football...... I bet you snitch on me and report this post lmao

(09-15-2015, 02:41 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: You're a pansy who should play flag football. - people who would be flipping out if it were the other way around

I don't see why you can't disprove of what Jones did and support what Iloka did (minus taunting penalty)

Just lay him out the next chance you get. Put your facemask in his thigh next time he has the ball. Do it legally and between the whistles. Not a hard concept.