(08-22-2020, 09:54 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I did not say Green wasn't the same player because of his injuries.  I described him not having the same performances as earlier in his career when he was healthy now.  He is 32 years old and far more NFL WRs have dropped off here than even stayed the course, let alone captured some of their earlier magic.  

His injuries may have affected his speed, ability to separate, etc.  We won't know until we see him.  But it isn't durability.  Sorry.  Again, I removed that from this discussion.  It is the player he is today vs. the player Ross is today.  

(08-21-2020, 10:49 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I think Green WAS a game changer.  I am not sure he is now....

In the last two years,

(08-21-2020, 10:52 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: AJ had a 3 TD game in primetime against Baltimore in 2018. That’s the definition of a game changer.

(08-22-2020, 12:29 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: I think this thread would be interesting with a small tweak

AJ or Boyd?

(08-22-2020, 02:13 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: It’s still AJ. We won 2 games last year with Boyd playing the entire season.

Boyd is a great #2, but he ain’t AJ...

(08-22-2020, 02:26 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: I don’t think Boyd was to blame there for the 2 game win column. He did pretty well on a putrid offense.

If we had AJ but no Boyd last year, how many games do we win?

(08-22-2020, 02:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: More than 2. Just look at the numbers, when we have a healthy AJ we win way more games than when we don't have him.

Happy he didn't play last year, we wouldn't have Burrow.

(08-22-2020, 03:13 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: 3? 6? 8? I’m just curious how big the AJ impact is.

And yes, also happy that last years misery at least means a chance at a new franchise QB

(08-22-2020, 12:27 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: And yet you keep bringing up the years Green was battling injury to justify your argument while ignoring Ross’ more prominent durability problem.

(08-22-2020, 02:26 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: I don’t think Boyd was to blame there for the 2 game win column. He did pretty well on a putrid offense.

If we had AJ but no Boyd last year, how many games do we win?

(08-22-2020, 04:29 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: More than 2. And ofc it wasn’t Boyd’s fault, but he’s not on AJ’s level. AJ is the type of WR than keeps DC’s up at night.

(08-22-2020, 04:39 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Yes, he was. That is SHRX’s point with this thread, is he still that guy? We don’t really know.

(08-23-2020, 03:22 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Wasn't Ross' one good game vs Seattle last year a situation where he had a boner-headed drop first and foremost and then Nice Guy Andy went right back to him and he scored a pretty amazing TD?  Is Burrow going to be nice enough to go right back to Ross after he drops it, or is he going to deathstare him and then scream in his face?

Welp, time will tell.

(08-23-2020, 03:22 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Wasn't Ross' one good game vs Seattle last year a situation where he had a boner-headed drop first and foremost and then Nice Guy Andy went right back to him and he scored a pretty amazing TD? Is Burrow going to be nice enough to go right back to Ross after he drops it, or is he going to deathstare him and then scream in his face?

Welp, time will tell.

(08-23-2020, 03:51 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Not sure if you meant to write ‘boner-headed’ or ‘bone-headed’ but I’m liking this new term I can add to my vocabulary...

(08-23-2020, 03:51 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Not sure if you meant to write ‘boner-headed’ or ‘bone-headed’ but I’m liking this new term I can add to my vocabulary...