(01-24-2022, 03:04 PM)samhain Wrote: One that can't get on the field even when healthy and banking huge checks and another that they returned to the sender.

(01-24-2022, 03:07 PM)J24 Wrote: Do you think Lou would have signed those guys if he felt they didn't fit his system?

(01-24-2022, 03:10 PM)samhain Wrote: I think he'd have kept Mac if he fit super well.  Also think Waynes wouldn't have gotten Wally Pipped by Eli Apple if he was great in this system.  If anything, both of those guys have given them working evidence that they are not a fit.

(01-24-2022, 01:51 PM)samhain Wrote: We don't blitz that much either.  It was like pulling teeth getting Lou to to blitz until mid season, and it was always in a specific situation.  When Zimmer was here he definitely wanted guys that could cover in man, which is why Newman played til he was 90 and Pacman followed him here.

It might work eventually, but I'd much rather have someone on the staff from Lou's school of thought.  I dislike the idea of switching horses in the middle of a race when one is running pretty well.  

If Zimmer came on board, I'd rather see it as a front office guy in waiting so he could at least have a feel for things before taking the reigns.  

It will be a moot argument anyway, as I don't see Lou going anywhere.

(01-24-2022, 02:37 PM)RASCAL Wrote: whats so funny??? absolutely nothing!!!

(01-23-2022, 01:01 PM)Au165 Wrote: Just saw he is interviewing for the NYG opening this morning. What a turn around for Lou, from people wanting him gone to now being a HC candidate.

(01-24-2022, 04:05 PM)Nepa Wrote: The Giants fan base right now is very, very angry. As frustrated as I have seen them and they have been taking their anger out on the Giants' organization. I think the Giants front office is very aware of that and the fact that they need a slam dunk pick. I personally think Lou will be a very hard sell to those fans, who wont see him as a homerun.  They'll have troubling seeing beyond the fact that the Bengals have the 17th ranked scoring defense, not among the top five.

(01-24-2022, 12:32 PM)pally Wrote: It might help if you knew Bengal's history before using it as an argument.  Mike Zimmer wasn't DC when that meltdown happened.  In fact, he wasn't DC for most of Dalton's or Green's careers or Burficts either.  He left the Bengals after the 2012 season. 

I base my opinion on watching his Vikings teams. Despite making the playoffs and even having some success in them, his teams often underperformed.  Under his tenure, the Vikings had more losing or .500 seasons than they did winning seasons.  And the drama surrounding his teams leads to bad play.  Locker room drama, unhappy players, leaked stories, on-field penalties, and bad effort...we don't need that here.  Zimmer's time with the Bengals is in the past.  Let everyone remember his time with fondness.  If Lou leaves bring in someone who will fit in with this coaching staff and these players

(01-24-2022, 01:29 PM)samhain Wrote: Wow.  Nice to have you back now that the sun is shining again and you got a wild hair.  Don't recall you being this big of a loudmouth before, but we all change.  You're knowledge is that you like Zimmer and you're mad that someone doesn't think he'd be a fit.  My counterpoint made an actual point.  You're only point is "nuh uh, I like him".

I get that you like the guy, but the point is valid.  Different players thrive in different systems.  This is not really a controversial statement.  Unless you want to get emotional about a bygone coach that you're n love with.  Keep flaunting you're ignorance now that you're comfortable posting here again.

(01-24-2022, 12:32 PM)pally Wrote: It might help if you knew Bengal's history before using it as an argument.  Mike Zimmer wasn't DC when that meltdown happened.  In fact, he wasn't DC for most of Dalton's or Green's careers or Burficts either.  He left the Bengals after the 2012 season. 

I base my opinion on watching his Vikings teams. Despite making the playoffs and even having some success in them, his teams often underperformed.  Under his tenure, the Vikings had more losing or .500 seasons than they did winning seasons.  And the drama surrounding his teams leads to bad play.  Locker room drama, unhappy players, leaked stories, on-field penalties, and bad effort...we don't need that here.  Zimmer's time with the Bengals is in the past.  Let everyone remember his time with fondness.  If Lou leaves bring in someone who will fit in with this coaching staff and these players

(01-24-2022, 05:44 PM)magikod Wrote:

(01-24-2022, 06:22 PM)Savagehenry54 Wrote: Again.  Zimmer is a helluva goid DC and in theory would def deserve a look. A look bro, a phone call, a text, something.  Not on here screaming we should absolute hire him.  If I was id understand your vitriol.

But you're losing your mind cuz I don't agree that he shouldn't even get a sniff from us if we end up needing a dc....lighten up francis.

(01-23-2022, 01:01 PM)Au165 Wrote: Just saw he is interviewing for the NYG opening this morning. What a turn around for Lou, from people wanting him gone to now being a HC candidate.

(01-24-2022, 06:29 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Regarding Zimmer if Lou gets the Giants position, I just hope Zimmer doesn't come back because Brown had fond memories of his previous tenure with the Bengals. I want Zac having the autonomy to decide who he has coaching the defense and that might not be Zimmer.

(01-23-2022, 11:04 PM)Savagehenry54 Wrote: Yea, I'm aware that a nickel back has all but replaced a third LB'er on most snaps going back several years now due to the evolution of the rules and how the game is called by the refs.  43 or 34 at this point is a reference to which type of edge rushers a team employs (Lawerence Taylor or Reggie White) and of course whether or not your nose tackle plays a one or a zero tech.

I'm not sure if Zimmer is so married to man coverage that he would insist on it with corners who can't play it.  I kindly doubt it.  Although I know he prefers it.  At any rate, you can determine that in interviews with the guy.

We're hiring from a position of strength.  We've got a ton of young talent in their prime or approaching it.  We're clearly good enough to win it all already.  If we lose Anarumo in the same year that an outstanding defensive coordinator/decent HC who we're already familiar becomes available and just write it off.....nah man.  Zimmer is a solid and deserving candidate that you absolutely consider should it become necessary.