(03-05-2025, 03:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I might be in the minority, but I really dislike someone skipping Combine workouts to do them instead at their Pro Day when they aren't injured.
With the way more and more players are skipping (certain) workouts at the Combine, the value of the Combine is declining more and more.

(03-05-2025, 04:08 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: So they are supposed to do the Combine when they are injured? This doesn't make sense to me, now if they aren't injured and 
are doing it because there is less pressure at a Pro Day and the numbers look better I can understand not liking it...

I know Synric and lots won't like me for saying this, but the Combine is a bit overrated IMO.

(03-05-2025, 03:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I might be in the minority, but I really dislike someone skipping Combine workouts to do them instead at their Pro Day when they aren't injured.
With the way more and more players are skipping (certain) workouts at the Combine, the value of the Combine is declining more and more.

(03-05-2025, 07:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No, that's not what I was saying.

I am saying they should have to do the Combine unless they are physically unable to, not just because they choose to skip the workouts.

Combine is better than Pro Days because you're on a neutral field with a good number of your peers from other schools, making it better to compare across individuals in position groups.

(03-06-2025, 12:57 AM)pulses Wrote: I like the other Jailin Walker LB from Indiana.  6'1 around 220 and plays all over the place. This past year he had 82 tackles 8 PD's  2 sacks 3 FF's and 2 INT's. pff grade of 82.7. HE wasn't invited to the combine. At his pro day he had a 10'7 broad jump which would have been 2nd at the combine and he had a 35 inch vertical. No 40 time yet but I saw articles that say they clocked him at 22-23 mph in games so he's prob running 4.4's or 4.5's. He looked very explosive and alot of NFL personnel took notice. I like this kid alot.

As you can see they weren't afraid to move him around and let him make plays on their defense.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/Jailin-Walker/148369/draft-profile

(03-05-2025, 03:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I might be in the minority, but I really dislike someone skipping Combine workouts to do them instead at their Pro Day when they aren't injured.
With the way more and more players are skipping (certain) workouts at the Combine, the value of the Combine is declining more and more.

(03-06-2025, 03:26 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I could see moving forward in the NIL world a "bonus" for participating in the Combine. 

(03-06-2025, 03:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I watched Walker last season a few times. Was clearly the leader on that Hoosiers Defense and he was all over the place.

He is undersized, but I don't care as long as the guy can make plays. 

Need to go from a big, slow Pratt to a faster sure tackler and Jailin Walker fits this. Where is Walker supposed to go in this Draft again?

(03-06-2025, 05:42 PM)pulses Wrote: 6th or 7th round be a crazy steal.

(03-06-2025, 06:00 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Alright, a no brainer that late. Must of been because he is undersized. On the field Walker was damn good for the Hoosiers.

Big, stack backers like Pratt are overrated now in the NFL.

(03-06-2025, 06:22 PM)pulses Wrote: He might even be able to play some safety as well.

(03-05-2025, 04:08 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: So they are supposed to do the Combine when they are injured? This doesn't make sense to me, now if they aren't injured and 
are doing it because there is less pressure at a Pro Day and the numbers look better I can understand not liking it...

I know Synric and lots won't like me for saying this, but the Combine is a bit overrated IMO.

(03-07-2025, 02:34 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Combine gets everyone under one roof, with their peers, being measured and timed at the same time under the same pressure. It also allows fans to watch it. If everyone decided to just skip it and do work at their pro day, every coach has to travel to them, deal with their 'home court' measurements. 

If the top guys start just doing pro day, i'd try to get together with other teams and just not show up. You can't let these little entitled bitches rule the roost. If you're the NFL, make these ***** do it your way or not at all. 

If they wanna do combine then pro day, sure. 

(03-05-2025, 04:08 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: So they are supposed to do the Combine when they are injured? This doesn't make sense to me, now if they aren't injured and 
are doing it because there is less pressure at a Pro Day and the numbers look better I can understand not liking it...

I know Synric and lots won't like me for saying this, but the Combine is a bit overrated IMO.

(03-07-2025, 04:44 PM)Synric Wrote: It's overrated and underrated.



The overrated  is that NFL gets alot of these power 5 prospect testing numbers a dozen or so times from rhe schools, training centers, and camps. Younger and small school prospects might not get those opportunities though. 

The underrated is the pure measureables, medicals, and meetings. Getting all these guys together seeing what they look like compared to each other and talking to them is important. 

(03-05-2025, 07:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No, that's not what I was saying.

I am saying they should have to do the Combine unless they are physically unable to, not just because they choose to skip the workouts.

Combine is better than Pro Days because you're on a neutral field with a good number of your peers from other schools, making it better to compare across individuals in position groups.

(03-08-2025, 12:01 PM)WrongVerb Wrote: You make some valid points, which I can get on board with.

However, I heard a couple days ago about one player who skipped combine workouts because he felt a number of his teammates should have been invited to the combine, but were not. Only performing at his pro day, when his non-combine-invite teammates are also there, gets them more exposure to team scouts, coaches, and execs. I don't know whether or not I agree with the reasoning, but I can see the validity in it.