(03-06-2017, 06:57 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Why does anyone expect anything signed before he is officially able to gauge his value on the market?

I'm quite certain his agent is going to collect the offer values and take them back to the FO to see what can be done to match them.

(03-06-2017, 07:01 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Well Whit said he wanted to be back here right after the season ended.

If we get in a bidding war we will most likely lose everytime. Especially if Hobspin is correct and we are only willing to
spend 15 million on our own FA's. This means Whit will go somewhere else and we will be in tailspin mode.

(03-06-2017, 07:05 PM)McC Wrote: If you let Whit get away, you might as well clean house.

This is unbelievable even for this franchise.

(03-06-2017, 03:27 PM)Wyche Wrote: Ahhh, I must say, that is surprising.....I would not have thought that.  We know how Ced ranked, but do you have any PFF numbers on Fish and Winston from last season?  I'm curious to see how vastly improved they were over Ogbuehi.  Thanks for the clarification.  I guess Og was SO bad, he made Smith look better (in my mind) than he actually was!

(03-06-2017, 03:27 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Ahhh, I must say, that is surprising.....I would not have thought that.  We know how Ced ranked, but do you have any PFF numbers on Fish and Winston from last season?  I'm curious to see how vastly improved they were over Ogbuehi.  Thanks for the clarification.  I guess Og was SO bad, he made Smith look better (in my mind) than he actually was!

(03-06-2017, 06:03 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Seriously though, I hope like hell they get something worked out with Whit, because the thought of this O-line without him and Zeitler is frightening.

(03-07-2017, 12:18 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: You would have liked to see something done with Whit before the "legal tampering" period began today.  I've thought all along that I would not be surprised to see him move on to a contender.  He has made his money and I'm sure would like a legitimate shot at a ring.  If he does leave, then I think we all wish him well and hope he gets it.

(03-07-2017, 02:19 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Yeah there cant be any hard feelings...   Whit has to look out for whats best for him.  He doesn't have a many years left in the league and if he doesn't believe this team can get him a ring then he should move on...  

Cant be hard feelings for the bengals either if whit does leave.  They have to prepare for next season and for long term.. While whit would be great to have next season..  Hes no longer a long term asset at this point in his career.   And the bengals drafted to prepare for this (how those picks turn out is still to be determined...)   

(03-07-2017, 02:39 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: I agree.  You always want to get rid of a player a year early than a year or two late.  I think this ability is one of the things that makes Belichick so great.  Problem is that the people drafted to replace both Whit and Andre have left a lot to be desired to this point, so now the team is in a bind.  Losing both Whit and Zeitler, and not bringing in free agent replacements would make next season a very long one.

(03-07-2017, 02:53 PM)McC Wrote: Yep.  And holding hostage the careers of Andy, AJ, Geno, etc. in the process.  If you lose the two best players on your line at once, given that you already have a lousy C and no RT, you probably have no choice but to start over.

(03-07-2017, 02:56 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: If they have a line of Ogbuehi, Boling, Bodine, Westerman, and Fisher this team is in real trouble.  Andy better take out some extra insurance

(03-06-2017, 07:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Well that ain't happening either from what i am seeing. Marv would of already been gone along with PA.

Zamp and Haslett should be gone as well if we were cleaning house.

Have to start with the biggest problem, the terrible coaches.

If Whit is gone i am expecting us to atleast grab one of the lower tier Free Agent OT's to act like they are doing something.

We will probably then have a decent draft but won't be able to go BPA cause of the poor FA so it will just even out.

Losing Whit and Zeitler is just complete ineptness man after last season.

The OL was already a concern, now they let it go to complete shit?

This is unbelievable even for this franchise.

(03-07-2017, 03:10 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's almost like the fans weren't shocked that Zamp and Haslett would be below average in their first year of their new roles with the Bengals....

At least let Haslett go. The LB play overall was bad (or at least not thrilling) last year.

(03-07-2017, 02:56 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: If they have a line of Ogbuehi, Boling, Bodine, Westerman, and Fisher this team is in real trouble.  Andy better take out some extra insurance

(03-07-2017, 03:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see Whit go. He deserves to go to a contender. Bengals only trying to spend 15m of their 43m to better the roster just can't go over well with players who want to win.

(03-07-2017, 03:54 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I'm still holding out hope that they get a deal done with Whit before Thursday at 4, but if not and he goes elsewhere...at least we'll bank that ever-important 5th round comp pick for 2018. 

(03-07-2017, 03:04 PM)McC Wrote: If that's our line, Andy won't be able to buy life insurance.