(03-03-2017, 10:38 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: No way does Chris Perry ever knock Akili Smith off that throne. 46.6% completion, 4.8 YPA, 5 TD/13 INT, 52.8 QB Rating, 19 Fumbles/8 Lost.

Besides, beyond the stats, Akili Smith could have been the Saint's entire draft class, plus two more first round picks, plus one more second round pick. That makes it impossible to ever beat him as the biggest draft bust for the Bengals. Perhaps even the entire league.

(03-03-2017, 11:20 PM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: I thought Perry was a 2nd rounder guess not. But Chris Perry doesn't get the credit for being the receiving back he was in 05. He helped that year. If it wasn't for Carson's knee, we probably win the Superbowl, after that he was no number #1

(03-03-2017, 11:36 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: This can't be serious can it?? We have a center that gets bull rushed backwards. A void at RT that is a giant unknown. The best guy on the line is the RG and we are letting him walk because... Mike Brown logic. Our LG is decent and an aging FA LT that might walk away for a playoff team.

They could draft the second coming of Walter Payton and he wouldn't gain a damn yard without a line.

If they make the dumbass move of letting Zeitler walk, you might as well load up on defense in the draft, since those guys are going to be on the field after every 3 and out from the offense.

(03-03-2017, 10:38 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: No way does Chris Perry ever knock Akili Smith off that throne. 46.6% completion, 4.8 YPA, 5 TD/13 INT, 52.8 QB Rating, 19 Fumbles/8 Lost.

Besides, beyond the stats, Akili Smith could have been the Saint's entire draft class, plus two more first round picks, plus one more second round pick. That makes it impossible to ever beat him as the biggest draft bust for the Bengals. Perhaps even the entire league.

(03-04-2017, 12:50 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You spelled LT wrong.

(03-04-2017, 12:57 AM)BrownAssClown Wrote: Bengals need to fix the Oline first. Look at Gurley behind the Rams line. IMHO Fournette would be a wasted pick at #9. I would like to see Jeremy Hill behind the Cowboys line to see if it is him or the line he runs behind.

(03-03-2017, 02:54 AM)Trademark Wrote: Yes please!!! Fournette will be the next AP!

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/3/2/14796008/bengals-want-leonard-fournette-nfl-network

(03-04-2017, 06:04 AM)kevin Wrote: They can't block for Hill, Bernard so why would we think they can block for this guy.  Dalton starting to get clobbered on ever play like Carson. ....There is the theory that if you draft a RB that he not only won't need blocking but he will be the quick fix.  We tried this before needing blocking but drafting Ki-Jana Carter.  With him, we weren't going to need blocking.  He didn't even make it past the second preseason game.  Against Detroit, only 2nd play of game, the ball snapped and the Lions came pouring in.  2 or 3 Lions actually hitting Ki-Jana as the QB turned to hand Carter the ball.  No blocking and Carter injured forever. Oh, they paid that money so they kept him around injured.  


I saw Ezekiel Elliott a lot in college and huge reason Ohio State beat Alabama, their hardest game in winning Championship. The best Ohio State RB since Eddie George.  Dallas does nothing without Elliott last season.  People saying Fournette is the next Elliott, I doubt that.  The good news is some team will draft him before Bengals pick and Bengals already said they will not trade to move up. This is good because Bengals Front Office doesn't seem to have clue lately as team seems willing to go many more years without a play-off win. 

With Hill who is one of better TD scoring RBs in NFL. With Gio  back and if they resign Burkhead who team was raving about saying he is ready to tear up the NFL, then I do not see RB as a needs list area. I see O Line a needs list. I see LB a needs list.  Looking at the mock drafts, I see those Alabama Linebackers who either one could come in here and start the next 10 years. In Round 2 there is 1st round talent at guard early in round 2.  Losing either Whitworth or Zeitler or both we will need a top guard early in 2.  IT looks like very soon we lose a lot of top players like last year, so a couple years ago Bengals being one of deepest teams in talent is about to change to one of weakest teams in talent.  Bengals do have Pacman.  He may be in jail or suspended by NFL all year, but they have their Pacman game.  

The team that takes him ahead of us will be doing our front office a favor and maybe then front office will address the loss of these players to free agency we are having.  There are going to be key areas to fill, with RB right now a strong area of team compared to glaring weak areas heading towards losing season if not addressed. We are close to losing a lot of depth in the D line also. We are close to forced to start 2 very unproven CBs in Dennard and Jackson which should be a day at the beach for opposing quarterbacks. We have been weak at LB for years because we haven't drafted LB in years.  If we lose LaFell, again we weak at WR.  The O line is a disaster area, our weakest area.  Whoever drafts this RB ahead of us will be doing Bengals who don't know any better, a favor.

(03-04-2017, 06:04 AM)kevin Wrote: They can't block for Hill, Bernard so why would we think they can block for this guy.  Dalton starting to get clobbered on ever play like Carson. ....There is the theory that if you draft a RB that he not only won't need blocking but he will be the quick fix.  We tried this before needing blocking but drafting Ki-Jana Carter.  With him, we weren't going to need blocking.  He didn't even make it past the second preseason game.  Against Detroit, only 2nd play of game, the ball snapped and the Lions came pouring in.  2 or 3 Lions actually hitting Ki-Jana as the QB turned to hand Carter the ball.  No blocking and Carter injured forever. Oh, they paid that money so they kept him around injured.  


I saw Ezekiel Elliott a lot in college and huge reason Ohio State beat Alabama, their hardest game in winning Championship. The best Ohio State RB since Eddie George.  Dallas does nothing without Elliott last season.  People saying Fournette is the next Elliott, I doubt that.  The good news is some team will draft him before Bengals pick and Bengals already said they will not trade to move up. This is good because Bengals Front Office doesn't seem to have clue lately as team seems willing to go many more years without a play-off win. 

With Hill who is one of better TD scoring RBs in NFL. With Gio  back and if they resign Burkhead who team was raving about saying he is ready to tear up the NFL, then I do not see RB as a needs list area. I see O Line a needs list. I see LB a needs list.  Looking at the mock drafts, I see those Alabama Linebackers who either one could come in here and start the next 10 years. In Round 2 there is 1st round talent at guard early in round 2.  Losing either Whitworth or Zeitler or both we will need a top guard early in 2.  IT looks like very soon we lose a lot of top players like last year, so a couple years ago Bengals being one of deepest teams in talent is about to change to one of weakest teams in talent.  Bengals do have Pacman.  He may be in jail or suspended by NFL all year, but they have their Pacman game.  

The team that takes him ahead of us will be doing our front office a favor and maybe then front office will address the loss of these players to free agency we are having.  There are going to be key areas to fill, with RB right now a strong area of team compared to glaring weak areas heading towards losing season if not addressed. We are close to losing a lot of depth in the D line also. We are close to forced to start 2 very unproven CBs in Dennard and Jackson which should be a day at the beach for opposing quarterbacks. We have been weak at LB for years because we haven't drafted LB in years.  If we lose LaFell, again we weak at WR.  The O line is a disaster area, our weakest area.  Whoever drafts this RB ahead of us will be doing Bengals who don't know any better, a favor.

(03-04-2017, 09:57 AM)McC Wrote: Well, you're not taking OLine in the first.  If you take Fournette at 9, you still have ten more picks to find linemen to improve the line.  No matter what, you want a top ten talent in the first.  The draft is deep in edge rushers.  You don't have to take one in the first, especially if it means reaching.  If Fournette or Cook is there, they might very well be BPA.  If that's the case, how can you pass?

(03-04-2017, 09:57 AM)McC Wrote: Well, you're not taking OLine in the first.  If you take Fournette at 9, you still have ten more picks to find linemen to improve the line.  No matter what, you want a top ten talent in the first.  The draft is deep in edge rushers.  You don't have to take one in the first, especially if it means reaching.  If Fournette or Cook is there, they might very well be BPA.  If that's the case, how can you pass?

(03-04-2017, 10:16 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Agreed. IMO, We have to get rid of Hill. I believe some have it in their heads if we sign a RB with the first pick we blew the draft already and vise versa if we go OL pick first. There are several picks available and in most cases must go BPA that fits our needs. We must have a great draft and utilize the picks accordingly. We cannot afford to draft some positions with the thought of not utilizing them much in the first year. Marvin will have to revisit his coaching style and either get aggressive with these picks or keep status quo and die again next year. My guess is he doesn't like change even though what he is and has been doing hasn't worked.

(03-04-2017, 01:27 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Horrendous idea!

The Bengals seem to be reverting to the 1990s where Mike Brown drafted zillions of skill players while ignoring the trenches.  On successful teams the lines are always addressed first.