(03-15-2018, 02:58 AM)jowczarski Wrote: I can't read through all this, but I'm sure by now you all saw my tweet(s) [or Katherine's] saying this was bullsh--.

I know I'm not supposed to rip on CJ or places like that but I have to here. But first - I don't know why the guy from an Alabama television station tweeted that. None. I'm sure, being that he's employed, someone he felt knew a thing, told him a thing, and he just trusted it and tweeted it. I talked to about a half dozen people from both teams within minutes of this being brought to my attention and got a collective WTF. Now, the core problem is the "report" itself. No doubt. It is / was incorrect. ((At the end of the day, nearly every player in the league can be "traded for" so if Burfict is ever dealt down the line, it's not a validation of this))

But CJ, PFT, all these places that just racked "REPORT: ..." assuming something... to get clicks ... ugh. It's just irresponsible journalism aggregation. In my opinion you can't just take something from a place like that and be like, oh yeah, it's solid enough to just send everywhere.

I feel I'm pretty connected. But I don't break every story. But I know I can get to the bottom of it within 15 minutes. And not a soul locally or nationally was on this. Say what you want about the ESPN and NFLN or what's left of the CBS and FOX reporters ... but none of them or the Oakland beat hacks even touched this. There's something to be said for that.

Anyway, sorry for the rant - but stuff like this and the way it's then blown out of proportion just because is mind numbing and a pain in the a--. I get aggregators are easy to find and they sort stuff for you as a fan in one spot...but there are dangers there. After all, it's the internet. 

reuben.ahmed Wrote:Gruden wants to come to Cincy? I would take J. Gruden and 1st round pick the next 3 years for V. Burfict.

(03-14-2018, 09:08 PM)BengalChris Wrote: I don't see why we'd need to do that to make space for Atkins and Dunlap.

Atkin's current contract pays him $9.5M this year. Dunlap is currently $7.3M. There is no deadcap money for either one of them.

The team has about $13M in cap space after taking off the rookie pool, so there's room to extend these guys.

If they both Atkins and Dunlap got $2M more per year there would still $9M left, which can be used for injuries, rollover, extending Dennard (which I believe would be relatively inexpensive this year compared with him hitting the open market next year).

We could save $5M+ by cutting MJ to make more room.

(03-15-2018, 02:58 AM)jowczarski Wrote: I can't read through all this, but I'm sure by now you all saw my tweet(s) [or Katherine's] saying this was bullsh--.

I know I'm not supposed to rip on CJ or places like that but I have to here. But first - I don't know why the guy from an Alabama television station tweeted that. None. I'm sure, being that he's employed, someone he felt knew a thing, told him a thing, and he just trusted it and tweeted it. I talked to about a half dozen people from both teams within minutes of this being brought to my attention and got a collective WTF. Now, the core problem is the "report" itself. No doubt. It is / was incorrect. ((At the end of the day, nearly every player in the league can be "traded for" so if Burfict is ever dealt down the line, it's not a validation of this))

But CJ, PFT, all these places that just racked "REPORT: ..." assuming something... to get clicks ... ugh. It's just irresponsible journalism aggregation. In my opinion you can't just take something from a place like that and be like, oh yeah, it's solid enough to just send everywhere.

I feel I'm pretty connected. But I don't break every story. But I know I can get to the bottom of it within 15 minutes. And not a soul locally or nationally was on this. Say what you want about the ESPN and NFLN or what's left of the CBS and FOX reporters ... but none of them or the Oakland beat hacks even touched this. There's something to be said for that.

Anyway, sorry for the rant - but stuff like this and the way it's then blown out of proportion just because is mind numbing and a pain in the a--. I get aggregators are easy to find and they sort stuff for you as a fan in one spot...but there are dangers there. After all, it's the internet. 

Dirty sumbitches.

(03-14-2018, 04:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Our defense sucks without Burfict.

And I can't believe there would be many teams willing to give up a lot of value for a guy with so many concussions and so many suspensions.

(03-15-2018, 02:58 AM)jowczarski Wrote: I can't read through all this, but I'm sure by now you all saw my tweet(s) [or Katherine's] saying this was bullsh--.

I know I'm not supposed to rip on CJ or places like that but I have to here. But first - I don't know why the guy from an Alabama television station tweeted that. None. I'm sure, being that he's employed, someone he felt knew a thing, told him a thing, and he just trusted it and tweeted it. I talked to about a half dozen people from both teams within minutes of this being brought to my attention and got a collective WTF. Now, the core problem is the "report" itself. No doubt. It is / was incorrect. ((At the end of the day, nearly every player in the league can be "traded for" so if Burfict is ever dealt down the line, it's not a validation of this))

But CJ, PFT, all these places that just racked "REPORT: ..." assuming something... to get clicks ... ugh. It's just irresponsible journalism aggregation. In my opinion you can't just take something from a place like that and be like, oh yeah, it's solid enough to just send everywhere.

I feel I'm pretty connected. But I don't break every story. But I know I can get to the bottom of it within 15 minutes. And not a soul locally or nationally was on this. Say what you want about the ESPN and NFLN or what's left of the CBS and FOX reporters ... but none of them or the Oakland beat hacks even touched this. There's something to be said for that.

Anyway, sorry for the rant - but stuff like this and the way it's then blown out of proportion just because is mind numbing and a pain in the a--. I get aggregators are easy to find and they sort stuff for you as a fan in one spot...but there are dangers there. After all, it's the internet. 

(03-14-2018, 06:52 PM)Quantum Bengal Wrote: I'm assuming your joking?

(03-15-2018, 04:52 PM)muskiesfan Wrote: I really wish this were true. I love Burfict's fire and intensity, but I hate all the stupid bullshit he does. Burfict brought his reputation on himself. There's no conspiracy and it's not because he's a Bengal. Burfict has been a personal foul machine since high school. It's who he is. He misses a ton of time, gets unnecessary penalties, and does stupid shit. People want to talk about the defense playing better and him being the heart and soul of the defense, but he's only played in 36 of 64 games since 2014. You can count on him to miss 5-6 games a season.

Yes, he's one of the best LBs to ever wear stripes, but how much longer before he's suspended an entire season?

(03-15-2018, 05:03 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Yep. All excellent points and exactly why I'm kinda bummed these rumors are false...

One thing though: I guarantee you if Burfict played for the steelers, he wouldn't be as wjdely hated as he is nor would he receive penalties/suspensions for how he plays. True, he's had his dirty moments... But that stuff is rewarded and celebrated in Pittsburgh. He'd probably be the leagues top selling jersey if he were a steeler 

(03-15-2018, 05:06 PM)muskiesfan Wrote: I agree that if he played for the Steelers, Patriots, either NY team, Seattle, Green Bay, or a couple of other darling teams and he wouldn't be viewed the same. I'm just saying this has been an issue with him in high school, college, and now the NFL. It's just who he is.

(03-15-2018, 05:13 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Yep, very true. It's exactly why he wasn't drafted. But he has gotten better these past couple of years. He had one personal foul in 2016, that suspension he got last preseason was complete bullshit, and don't even get me started on that "contact with an official" incident   

The league has had it out for Burfict since that hit on AB in the playoffs made him the most hated football player in America. The perfect whipping boy for the league to constantly make an example out of. We'll undoubtedly be without him thanks to a suspension at some point (if another concussion doesn't take him out first). It's a shame we couldn't trade that inevitability away for something.

(03-14-2018, 07:59 PM)jj22 Wrote: Hobs already shutting things down to save 6 round comp picks.