(04-30-2021, 12:16 PM)Stewy Wrote: Good take from Willie!  Let's support the team and ENJOY the draft process.  I will regardless, but I hope the Team Sewell folks find their happy as well.

(04-30-2021, 10:46 AM)TJ528 Wrote: Your right the Bengals have found more gems at key positions than the Browns have.  However, the Browns don't have near as many 1st round bust in the NFL draft as the Bengals do. 

(04-30-2021, 12:30 PM)WVUHomer Wrote: I feel like this is a false statement as well: Johnny Football, Weeden, Braylon Edwards, Phil Taylor, Danny Shelton, etc.

(04-30-2021, 12:36 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not only is a false statement, it’s a CRAZY statement. The Browns are the king’s of the 1st round bust.

(04-30-2021, 12:30 PM)WVUHomer Wrote: I feel like this is a false statement as well: Johnny Football, Weeden, Braylon Edwards, Phil Taylor, Danny Shelton, etc.

(04-30-2021, 09:15 AM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: I hope you Team Chase people are happy.

Oh, how quickly you all forgot. Mark my words. Last night will be considered the worst draft pick from the Bengals in the last 10 years.

(04-30-2021, 12:36 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not only is a false statement, it’s a CRAZY statement. The Browns are the king’s of the 1st round bust.

(04-30-2021, 12:46 PM)WVUHomer Wrote: I honestly had to look them up because I couldn't remember them all. Crazy high bust rate. Unfortunately they seemed to figure it out after they hired a GM.

(04-30-2021, 01:15 PM)Burma Wrote: Come on! That homeless guy on the freeway exit ramp was given 1 single chance.  Totally unfair, he needed at lesat 3 draft classes to shape the roster and be judged.

(04-30-2021, 10:31 AM)TJ528 Wrote: Well the Bengals are like the Lions with their love for the QB's and WR in the draft because they sell jersey, which nets them $$$$. 

It's always about the mighty dollar when it comes to this team. 

(04-30-2021, 09:15 AM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: I hope you Team Chase people are happy.

Oh, how quickly you all forgot. Mark my words. Last night will be considered the worst draft pick from the Bengals in the last 10 years.

(04-30-2021, 10:59 AM)TJ528 Wrote: I agree things are changing.  However, a leopard doesn't change it's spots.  

The Bengals have improved social media and fan outreach because the younger generation knows they can make more profits doing so. 

Mike Brown has 0 idea how to win in the NFL.  Mike Browns record as GM is 98-186-1.  That right there should tell you all you need to know about the last 30 years of football in Cincinnati.  Yet people wonder why some fans are still skeptical it's a ploy of some kind. 

I see changes taking place.  Now they need to invest in their front office and scouting staff.  Once they do that I'll recognize there's a "New Dey" in Cincinnati. 

(04-30-2021, 12:25 PM)TKUHL Wrote: I was pissed with the Chase pick but we may get lucky with the amount of Olinemen in the board. Not as mad knowing Burrow was the one pounding the table for Chase. So if he ends up on his ass this season it’s as much on him as management. Besides the more I think about it, we have horrible luck with first round OLinemen. Sewell could end up being another bust who knows. Hopefully they do the right thing and take the best Olinemen in the 2nd instead of waiting any longer. Or maybe try to move up for Jenkins.

(04-30-2021, 02:33 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: Tigers have stripes not spots and these Bengals do have new stripes.


It's not remotely luck. They've just judged the available talent better than you have.

(04-30-2021, 02:40 PM)Beaker Wrote: The Bengals have always had some pretty good picks in rounds 2-4. But I believe that is a function of us being bad at talent evaluation. You have to exclude the last 2 yrs because Chase and Burrow were consensus best players that we couldnt screw up by taking. But before that the Bengals have been pretty bad at first round picks.

My hypothesis as to why we do well in the middle rounds is because players that are earlier round talents always fall. The bBengals are bad at talent evaluation, but good at recognizing value. So when players with first round grades fall into the second and so forth, the Bengals are good at snapping them up of they are there when we pick.

(04-30-2021, 02:41 PM)TJ528 Wrote: TJ come on really?  the more things change they stay the same.  

What's different about the front office? I mean from what I understand Elizabeth isnt doing the scouting and development of players for the team.

I mean she's doing an amazing job with new uni's, and the Ring of Honor, but where it really counts over the past 2 years they're 6-25-1.  

So realistically as I said the more things change they stay the same. 

(04-30-2021, 02:43 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: How can you say Chase was the consensus best player available when Team Chase v Team Sewell was such a hotly disputed thing?