(08-25-2022, 02:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Den......W
Bal.......W
KC.......W
Cle.......L
LV........W
Ten......W
KC.......W
LA........L


What am I missing here?  Which one of those 6 wins does not count?

(08-25-2022, 03:08 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Ok, I see what the issue is. I thought you guys were talking about the end of the REGULAR season.

(08-25-2022, 03:08 PM)PhilHos Wrote: But, yes, if you count the playoffs, then we ended the season at 6-2 (not counting the Cleveland game).

(08-25-2022, 02:25 PM)fredtoast Wrote: If there is no luck involved then we will be seeing them do it all the time this year, right?

All I said was that I look forward to seeing that this year.  Don't you?

(08-25-2022, 05:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: 6-2 counting the Cleveland game.

(08-25-2022, 02:25 PM)fredtoast Wrote: If there is no luck involved then we will be seeing them do it all the time this year, right?

All I said was that I look forward to seeing that this year.  Don't you?

(08-25-2022, 01:29 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This entire "debate" is really, really, really dumb.

(08-25-2022, 06:42 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Well, it's good to know you don't think our team with one of the greatest young QBs in the league is skillful enough to convert a 3rd and 27.

(08-25-2022, 06:47 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: yep

I wonder if we still had the old HC if this narrative would be the same ?

(08-25-2022, 06:50 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I have to wonder when it becomes a fluke ?

Is a 3rd and 12 a fluke ? 3rd and 18 ? anything over 22 ? What about 4th down ? Does the flukeiness go up ? I mean the top athletes in the world still have to abide by the fluke handbook, I guess ?

(08-25-2022, 06:42 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Well, it's good to know you don't think our team with one of the greatest young QBs in the league is skillful enough to convert a 3rd and 27.

(08-25-2022, 08:41 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Kind of sounds more like something else, like executing the gameplan to perfection on the one team most had dialed in for the SB...

(08-25-2022, 06:50 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I have to wonder when it becomes a fluke ?

Is a 3rd and 12 a fluke ? 3rd and 18 ? anything over 22 ? What about 4th down ? Does the flukeiness go up ? I mean the top athletes in the world still have to abide by the fluke handbook, I guess ?

(08-26-2022, 10:45 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So our game plan was to get our asses absolutely handed to us for an entire half?

(08-26-2022, 10:56 AM)BillsGuy1986 Wrote: My Take:
Bengals, Bills, Chiefs (perhaps by reputation than anything else. Should take a step back), Chargers, maybe Ravens > Everyone else.

Its a shame an NFC team has to be in the superbowl. Of course all of this will change with injuries and actual games being played.

In the argument earlier in this thread between Bengals vs. Bills 2021 season, the Bills lost all of their close games last year and won all of their close games in 2020, so luck flipped the other way (pun intended). I didn't follow the Bengals closely enough but I was impressed by what I saw and the debate of who is better will have to wait until 2023, Sadly.

As long as there isn't a rolling snowstorm on 01/02/23, i'd like to go to that game. Cheers.

(08-26-2022, 10:45 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So our game plan was to get our asses absolutely handed to us for an entire half?

Then once we finally get a lead in the 4th quarter the plan was to let our defense choke it away so that our offense would have to come back and win on the final play of the game? 

I guess it was a brilliant plan.  I just hope we are able to "execute it with perfection" every time.  Most NFL coaches have game plans that give them a little more margin for error?

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(08-25-2022, 06:02 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: If you call heads, flip a coin 50 times and it comes up heads 20, is that luck?

No. It's the rule of large numbers. It's chance. Luck has nothing to do with it. 

If two professional athletes throw a pass against another professional athlete, sometimes they're going to win and sometimes they're going to lose. There are a lot of factors that will determine the outcome but luck isn't one of them. 

Luck is a made up construct. 

(08-26-2022, 04:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: In 2021 Joe Burrow was the first QB to convert on a 3rd and 25+ since 2017.  137 pass attempts by the greatest QBs in the game over the last 4 years and only one first down conversion.

But, yeah, luck has nothing to do with it at all. 

And since we have the same coaches and BETTER talent this year, I am looking forward to the Bengal taking advantage of that unusual ability to convert on 3rd-and-25+.

(08-26-2022, 04:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: In 2021 Joe Burrow was the first QB to convert on a 3rd and 25+ since 2017.  137 pass attempts by the greatest QBs in the game over the last 4 years and only one first down conversion.

(08-26-2022, 04:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But, yeah, luck has nothing to do with it at all.