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RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - bengalfan74 - 08-19-2025
(2 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True, I think that Burrow is a bit crazy and risks himself at times when he shouldn't but at least he went out on a great note with that bad ass
pass to Chuck. I don't see Burrow and this Offense being as rusty against the Stains as they were against the Pats last year for this very reason.
Me either, but I'm glad they've got some reps in.
The defense however is another matter.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025
(5 hours ago)Joelist Wrote: Looking at the film you see that a lot of the early defensive issues were of all things schematic, and mostly mental. not only did they play vanilla in terms of wrinkles but there was zero diagnosis and recognition going on - which is the disturbing part. You can play vanilla and still read plays and react correctly. Then of course DC on offense also opened up the playbook. and so you had ridiculous nonsense like us in a 4 man front with a cavernous gap in its center and only 2 linebackers....it would have been amazing NOT to get gashed on a run in that look. Sorry but they should have switched out of that stupid 4-2-5 look after one play. We have a large enough LB room to use 4-3-4 so use it.
Right around the middle of the second quarter the defense solidified. Part of it was Barrett Carter coming in a LB but also they went to a "heavier" look with some 4-3 in it. This took the easy runs away and forced passes - which got picked. So when we blast the defense remember they did not have a "Front 7" when the 1s were in - it was a "Front 6".
Looking at the big runs.
The first one was on Burks. He took a bad angle. WR sweep. Battle gave him some extra yards with poor tackling.
The 2nd one, the 40 yarder up the middle, seemed a good play. They let the DTs penetrate and sealed them with a good scheme blocking on the others. Ossai got sealed. Stewart has no chance. Wilson jumps to his right and Knight to his left, leaving the middle completely open. Battle gets too far upfiled and is out of position to make a stop.
The TD was on Knight. His fill was so deep that ot kept Wilson from being able to get to the hole.
The Daniels TD was a scramble, but terrible tackling by Battle.
I thought Gregory and Heyward had pretty good games though Heyward did miss a tackle. Not Tinsley, "I just made the team" good, but more than solid.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-19-2025
(1 hour ago)bengalfan74 Wrote: Me either, but I'm glad they've got some reps in.
The defense however is another matter.
Understandable. Still, even the Defense is fixable once they all get on the same page. Most of the players that made the mistakes have been good
run stoppers in the past. Mentally being in the right place has been the problem along with communication. This can be fixed and if Golden is a good
DC he will fix it.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Luvnit2 - 08-19-2025
I am an optimist, but last night gave me major concerns for our defense. The criticism is warranted by fans. I would rather get exposed in a preseason game and not week 1. Golden has a ton of teachable moments.
On th eother hand, I thought our offense looks sharp and I don't think Burrow is playing at an elite level each pass yet. I also like our ST's play.
I hope we sign Risner and extend Trey. If so, I do think we will get better each week defensively and will need our offense to carry the burden while the defense reinvents themselves.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025
Do I have the DNPs right?
O: Gesicki, All, Ford, Volson, Lee, Cochran
D: Hendrickson, BJ Hill, Turner, Stone, C. Johnson
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - bfine32 - 08-19-2025
(2 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True, I think that Burrow is a bit crazy and risks himself at times when he shouldn't but at least he went out on a great note with that bad ass
pass to Chuck. I don't see Burrow and this Offense being as rusty against the Stains as they were against the Pats last year for this very reason.
(2 hours ago)coachmcneil71 Wrote: He even mentioned that in his sideline interview. He said, "I, took a stupid sack", or something similar to that.
What I loved about Burrow last night was that after halftime, all the other starters were in street clothes, yuking it up with each other. JB remained in full uniform/pads and was locked in until the final whistle. I also liked that it seems he and Trey were talking the whole game. There was also a 3rd with them but I cannot remember who it was; maybe OBJ
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Nepa - 08-19-2025
Does someone here with a mind for defense alignment explain what happened those first two series by Washington, where they rolled up about 100 yards or so on the ground in just two series? There seemed to be huge holes for the runners. Not the Jayden Daniels run, which was just poor tackling. But there were plays were it seemed like the Bengals had half the players on the field that Washington had. I think the proverbial grandmother could have run through some of those gaps.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Luvnit2 - 08-19-2025
(1 hour ago)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Do I have the DNPs right?
O: Gesicki, All, Ford, Volson, Lee, Cochran
D: Hendrickson, BJ Hill, Turner, Stone, C. Johnson
Murphy and I think J, Davis also sat.
Burton did not play at WR and ST nor did Lee at center
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-19-2025
(1 hour ago)bfine32 Wrote: What I loved about Burrow last night was that after halftime, all the other starters were in street clothes, yuking it up with each other. JB remained in full uniform/pads and was locked in until the final whistle. I also liked that it seems he and Trey were talking the whole game. There was also a 3rd with them but I cannot remember who it was; maybe OBJ
Yeah, that was OBJ. Also liked what Burrow said about the Defense so he isn't as concerned. Maybe Joe is lobbying for Trey now since he
lobbied for his Offensive weapons earlier in the Offseason. Joe knows we need Trey.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Luvnit2 - 08-19-2025
(1 hour ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, that was OBJ. Also liked what Burrow said about the Defense so he isn't as concerned. Maybe Joe is lobbying for Trey now since he
lobbied for his Offensive weapons earlier in the Offseason. Joe knows we need Trey.
I liked Joe standing by Trey a lot during the game. To me, if Tobin abd Katie I get the message, extend the man and then see us standing on the winning podium at the SB.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - wanga - 08-19-2025
Joe didn’t get hurt, Trey was there but not playing, the defence.
RE: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly; Preseason Game 2 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 08-19-2025
(1 hour ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Murphy and I think J, Davis also sat.
Burton did not play at WR and ST nor did Lee at center
Thanks. I knew I was forgetting people. Murphy is sadly so easy to forget, even when he does play.