(02-28-2016, 08:30 AM)Se ky bengal Wrote: would you rather him curl up in fetal position? I've seen Pitt bust in the mouth and bully us too much. Glad we have an enforcer don't lose your edge vontaze, bust them in mouth every chance you get. I'm pissed not so much mad at Burfict as I am at pac man for letting porter bait him in. Where's the penalty for his ass being on the field? The hit n gio didnt draw penalty . I bet AB will be thinking next time he crosses up the middle. Love vontazes intense play just rope it in a little and lead these boys to a ship. Any team in the league would give their right nut to have Burfict, leading their backers. Put him in steelers uniform and he's a hard nose player, but wearing the stripes he a thug.  Get use to it NFL

(02-28-2016, 02:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Instead oif dipping his shoulder to hit Brown just twist his body in the other direction.

Two guys running into each other doesn't draw a flag.  One guy dipping his shoulder to hit a defensless receiver does.

(02-28-2016, 02:55 PM)Shepdawg Wrote: I see where the confusion is.  Not many people are arguing that the play shouldn't have drawn the penalty.  The argument is simply the play is not the butcher job it is being portrayed as, and does not warrant a 3 game suspension.  The actual time from the ball goes off of Browns hands, in relation to the contact made by Burfict is less than 3 tenths of a second.  There is NO way for Burfict to make the determination that the ball was not going to be caught until the ball hit's Browns hands and goes off of them.  As the evidence shows, contact was made with Brown with the ball just 4-5 yards past Brown, and Brown's second foot barely makes contact with the ground.  Less than 3 tenths of a second. 

(02-28-2016, 02:55 PM)Shepdawg Wrote: I see where the confusion is.  Not many people are arguing that the play shouldn't have drawn the penalty.  The argument is simply the play is not the butcher job it is being portrayed as, and does not warrant a 3 game suspension.  The actual time from the ball goes off of Browns hands, in relation to the contact made by Burfict is less than 3 tenths of a second.  There is NO way for Burfict to make the determination that the ball was not going to be caught until the ball hit's Browns hands and goes off of them.  As the evidence shows, contact was made with Brown with the ball just 4-5 yards past Brown, and Brown's second foot barely makes contact with the ground.  Less than 3 tenths of a second. 

(02-28-2016, 02:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Instead oif dipping his shoulder to hit Brown just twist his body in the other direction.

Two guys running into each other doesn't draw a flag.  One guy dipping his shoulder to hit a defensless receiver does.

(02-29-2016, 12:11 AM)Gohards Wrote: I see where the confusion is. Vontaze Burfict was not only suspended 3 games for that hit, but for repeated violations.

(02-29-2016, 12:12 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Go run full speed at something start leaning forward like you are going for a tackle then have somebody throw a bowling ball at your upper torso. See if your body has any protective reflexes. Ill throw the bowling ball at you if you cant find anyone else.

(02-28-2016, 02:55 PM)Shepdawg Wrote: I see where the confusion is.  Not many people are arguing that the play shouldn't have drawn the penalty.  The argument is simply the play is not the butcher job it is being portrayed as, and does not warrant a 3 game suspension.  The actual time from the ball goes off of Browns hands, in relation to the contact made by Burfict is less than 3 tenths of a second.  There is NO way for Burfict to make the determination that the ball was not going to be caught until the ball hit's Browns hands and goes off of them.  As the evidence shows, contact was made with Brown with the ball just 4-5 yards past Brown, and Brown's second foot barely makes contact with the ground.  Less than 3 tenths of a second. 

(02-29-2016, 12:11 AM)Gohards Wrote: I see where the confusion is. Vontaze Burfict was not only suspended 3 games for that hit, but for repeated violations.

(02-29-2016, 01:45 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: This is true.

This is also true. You usually want the right calls made right away. Like for example, if i were a child i wouldn't want nor understand a spanking out of the blue for something i did months ago.

(02-29-2016, 05:36 PM)Gohards Wrote: If you did something months ago, then you did it again, you should get spanked. They suspemded him for repeated violations AND the hit

(02-23-2016, 12:12 PM)jj22 Wrote: The comment section smh. I've never seen someone hated like this before. Not Harrison, not Talib, not Suh, not Porter. Something is unnatural/unhealthy with the level of hate thrown at Burfict by fans.

But like I've been saying. Mike Brown let this happen for his complete lack of backbone to defend his organization and players when they were under national fire. That's why when the wildcard game is spoken of now, the blame goes to Burfict and Jones without a mention of the Steelers tactics. They've come out of it (even with the action of their coaches) clean as a whistle. Good work behind the scenes Rooney (and Pat Bowlen for getting Talib a fine of 26K for admitting to purposefully trying to break a guys neck). These are championship winning Owners and their ability to fight for their players reflects that no lose/championship attitude.

The wildcard game was a turning point for this franchise, and time will show if it was a good one or not. The thug and criminal narrative is back, the drafting of poor character guys narrative is back, and the outlook of the team is circa 2007.... With the rebuild underway, it'll be an interesting season.

(03-01-2016, 03:08 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: Reminds me of Bengals fans and Mike Brown.

(03-01-2016, 04:14 PM)jj22 Wrote: Not sure how you can blame Bengals fans for frustration with Mike Brown, unless you just became a fan in 2011.

When Burfict does this it's malice, and proof he's a dirty player. Everyone else.... Not so much.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFE1HlYeWc4

(03-01-2016, 04:31 PM)jj22 Wrote: No I want to blame Brown for not sticking up for the team when they were under heavy attack. But it's too late now. Poor PR, poor crisis management. But we are the joke of the league still for a reason.  The narrative is lost and the team is back to being full of criminals and players drafted with bad character (even though Burfict wasn't even drafted, and we never drafted Jones). The Bengals were under national attack. The brand was under fire and being set back to 2006. Brown did nothing. But we know not much embarrasses Brown, so that's not shocking. But it is worth noting and comparing to other Owners who have come out firing when their team is under national scrutiny.

Nobody is giving him the benefit of the doubt anymore?
I just watched Duke and Guenther give a spirited defense of him at the combine. I read how Marvin was traveling to NY with him to try to fight an appeal process that took record time, along with the actual suspension that took record time. They can't do it all tho.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/01/adam-jones-rules-out-no-team-wants-a-good-chance-of-winning/
Pay attention to the comments to get an idea of how the team has lost the narrative of what happened in the wildcard game. Rarely do media outlets etc mention the Steelers tactics anymore. Just slam Burfict and Jones.