(11-22-2020, 11:50 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Any Coach that comes here will come under the assumption they will be working with JB. 

(11-23-2020, 11:15 AM)Schmitbuck Wrote: Yep, there are handful of teams that could be addressing QB this offseason:

Jets
Jags
Falcons
Redskins Football Team
Panthers
Patriots

Outside of the scenario you laid out (dropping 1 pick), the only way I could see them trading down far enough to miss out on Sewell is if they've already signed a Thuney type FA. Just have to hope for a big 3. 

(11-23-2020, 11:44 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Fraud SEC East; Georgia was the only tough opponent they had, basically.

Trask against 'bama would've been a great measuring stick; he does well, his stock rises and you're looking at a top 10, (maybe) top 5 pick.

But he won't have faced any tough Ds otherwise and the LSU matchup will be a nightmare for the Tigers, since Pellini is a POS.

(11-23-2020, 03:56 PM)ochocincos Wrote: To me, there are only 4 options for Pick #3:
- Penei Sewell, OT Oregon
- Ja'Marr Chase, WR LSU
- Gregory Rousseau, EDGE Miami
- Trade back

With what we've seen with Higgins, I don't think they need to get a WR with a Top 5 pick, as we "just" need a WR3. So I doubt Chase makes sense.

With Sewell, the team would have to either move Williams to another position or replace Bobby Hart. While I think it'd be a good decision to replace Hart, I have a hard time thinking this coaching staff would do so given how hard they've defended him to this point.

Rousseau is a bit of a gamble. He's only really played a single season, but it was a monster season. He has the length and size you want. There are some things he needs improvement on, but he will only get with experience. With how terrible this defensive coaching staff has been with DL/EDGE, I wouldn't have confidence they can actually groom Rousseau properly, but maybe they just need elite talent.

Last, trading back could really bring additional early-round picks that would be invaluable for helping fill all the weaknesses this team has.

(11-23-2020, 04:12 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I think I would only be okay with the first two.

All of the pass rush problems won't be solved immediately, but getting a real DC and getting a healthy Atkins and Reader in 2021 will make huge strides towards fixing it. I am still convinced that it's mostly DC incompetency that's killed the pass rush. Dunlap performing in Seattle only just confirmed what I already believed.

I'm not sure what the Bengals could be offered that would make me willing to trade down in 2021. At #3 you have a guaranteed chance at an All-Pro level talent difference maker in either Sewell or Chase. Both of which would help your franchise QB in different ways. If you have a Sewell/Chase caliber player available, you gotta take them. Doubly so when you have a questionable FO that you don't trust with the extra picks.

Only 2 Options In My Mind:
1. Sewell
2. Chase only if Sewell isn't available

1,780 yards at 21.2 a catch and 20 TDs in the SEC in 14 games. That is otherworldly. 9/221/2 in the Championship game. Just look at how much Justin Jefferson is dominating as a rookie and then remember that Chase was better. 

If Sewell is gone by the time they pick, Chase is available, and they don't take Chase? It'll be a repeat of the Browns trading down and passing on Julio Jones. 

(11-23-2020, 04:17 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I'm assuming if you're going with Sewell or Chase, you're planning to re-sign Lawson and/or going heavy defense right after in the draft?
Bengals won't be able to get a decent pass rush going with just Reader, Atkins, and Hubbard. They need 2 more pass rushers.

(11-23-2020, 03:10 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I GUARANTEE you, QB is not and will not be a consideration in the upcoming draft. 

Zero chance. No way, no how. 

(11-23-2020, 04:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: Now again if Zac returns, then all bets are off, but if a new Coach is in. They can't hang their hat on a qb coming off of an injury like this.

(11-23-2020, 03:10 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I GUARANTEE you, QB is not and will not be a consideration in the upcoming draft. 

Zero chance. No way, no how. 

(11-23-2020, 04:23 PM)jj22 Wrote: People are thinking with their hearts, not their heads. 

It sounds like it's worse case scenario and the knee will have to be reconstructed. A brutal injury much like the Bridgewater injury (which took him 2 years to fully recover from and trust).

There's a significant chance Joe won't be the same player, and with what is looking like a long recover, and unknown outcome.... Why again are guaranteed to pass on a potential Franchise one at 3 again (if one is there). 

That would be neglectful given what we are hearing about Burrow's injury.

(11-23-2020, 04:20 PM)Bengals731 Wrote: With the news about Burrows injury being worse than thought , gotta think about a QB again

(11-23-2020, 04:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: Now again if Zac returns, then all bets are off, but if a new Coach is in. They can't hang their hat on a qb coming off of an injury like this.

(11-23-2020, 05:42 PM)J24 Wrote: We might need a backup in rounds 4 or 5 because Finley ain't it.

(11-23-2020, 03:56 PM)ochocincos Wrote: To me, there are only 4 options for Pick #3:
- Penei Sewell, OT Oregon
- Ja'Marr Chase, WR LSU
- Gregory Rousseau, EDGE Miami
- Trade back

With what we've seen with Higgins, I don't think they need to get a WR with a Top 5 pick, as we "just" need a WR3. So I doubt Chase makes sense.

With Sewell, the team would have to either move Williams to another position or replace Bobby Hart. While I think it'd be a good decision to replace Hart, I have a hard time thinking this coaching staff would do so given how hard they've defended him to this point.

Rousseau is a bit of a gamble. He's only really played a single season, but it was a monster season. He has the length and size you want. There are some things he needs improvement on, but he will only get with experience. With how terrible this defensive coaching staff has been with DL/EDGE, I wouldn't have confidence they can actually groom Rousseau properly, but maybe they just need elite talent.

Last, trading back could really bring additional early-round picks that would be invaluable for helping fill all the weaknesses this team has.

(11-23-2020, 05:42 PM)J24 Wrote: We might need a backup in rounds 4 or 5 because Finley ain't it.

(11-23-2020, 10:43 AM)jj22 Wrote: This is a lie. I was one of the first around here to spot Burrow last September. Your personal insults have to stop. You got away with them yesterday because emotions were high, and I know you are upset as we all are but this isn't a good look.

Palmer, never gave us a season like he did in 2015 prior to injury.

Rather we like it or not, Burrow may never reach the highs he could have.

(11-23-2020, 04:23 PM)jj22 Wrote: People are thinking with their hearts, not their heads. 

It sounds like it's worse case scenario and the knee will have to be reconstructed. A brutal injury much like the Bridgewater injury (which took him 2 years to fully recover from and trust).

There's a significant chance Joe won't be the same player, and with what is looking like a long recover, and unknown outcome.... Why again are guaranteed to pass on a potential Franchise one at 3 again (if one is there). 

That would be neglectful given what we are hearing about Burrow's injury.

(11-23-2020, 05:57 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I honestly can't see any rationale for taking a WR at #3.  That would be a typical Bengal move and we would be idiots to do it.

I just don't see how a team that struggles to protect the QB would pass on a generational talent at the most important position on offense outside of QB.  We would be the laughingstock of the league.

(11-23-2020, 04:20 PM)Bengals731 Wrote: With the news about Burrows injury being worse than thought , gotta think about a QB again

Can confirm Joe Burrow's injury is a tear of the ACL and MCL, but it is viewed as a nine-month recovery.

That would put him in line to return next year for the #Bengals and that sounds like the expectation.

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