(04-08-2022, 07:44 PM)grampahol Wrote: Just to be the devil and being my own advocate does anyone really care how "gorgeous" a weight room is? ...

If some player getting paid 200 million bucks decides they don't want to play there just because of the decorations? Ehhhh... 

(04-10-2022, 04:58 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Yes. 

"Driving 45mph is driving 45mph."

(04-08-2022, 07:44 PM)grampahol Wrote: If some player getting paid 200 million bucks decides they don't want to play there just because of the decorations? Ehhhh... 

(04-12-2022, 05:49 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: These type of responses always miss the mark. We're talking about millionaire pampered athletes, not Joe Lunchpail at the local factory. I'm a fan of the team and want them to win. If that requires not looking like a 3rd rate organization, then so be it.

Not sure how people are fans of winning, but seem to also want owners to penny pinch and treat millionaire athletes like Bob the backhoe operator. That's not how it works.

I doubt an ugly workout room alone will turn anyone away...but if the entire locker room starts to notice "hey, our weight room is crap...oh, we also have no indoor facility...oh, they make us rent TVs at training camp" (just throwing stuff out there), you start to see enough things like that, then the team starts to develop a reputation.

Both in the locker room and beyond. Gives off a stench that you don't really care. Where are you spending your millions if it's not on giving your team the very best? How can you demand excellence from players when you offer them crap?

If this were the 1980s, I'd probably agree with you, but sports and how organizations are run have changed a great deal.

(04-12-2022, 05:49 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: These type of responses always miss the mark. We're talking about millionaire pampered athletes, not Joe Lunchpail at the local factory. I'm a fan of the team and want them to win. If that requires not looking like a 3rd rate organization, then so be it.

Not sure how people are fans of winning, but seem to also want owners to penny pinch and treat millionaire athletes like Bob the backhoe operator. That's not how it works.

I doubt an ugly workout room alone will turn anyone away...but if the entire locker room starts to notice "hey, our weight room is crap...oh, we also have no indoor facility...oh, they make us rent TVs at training camp" (just throwing stuff out there), you start to see enough things like that, then the team starts to develop a reputation.

Both in the locker room and beyond. Gives off a stench that you don't really care. Where are you spending your millions if it's not on giving your team the very best? How can you demand excellence from players when you offer them crap?

If this were the 1980s, I'd probably agree with you, but sports and how organizations are run have changed a great deal.

(04-12-2022, 07:07 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I don't think Gramps was being serious...

(04-13-2022, 09:04 AM)grampahol Wrote: I am kind of serious when it comes to pampered millionaires.. Once they reach a certain point and hold my enjoyment of the game ransom they lose me.. It's the single biggest sticking point for millions of millions of former baseball fans.. I remember when LOTS of people walked away from the game the day it was announced that Catfish Hunter was going to be paid a million bucks and that was some time ago.. Toss is an economy going to crap, people losing their homes and way of life and ask them to pony up millions for one player who shows zero loyalty to your hometown? It ain't worth the angst .. I was still a fan when they were 2-14 so a winning record won't change how i see the dollars and sense in the grand scheme since it can easily turn on a dime with a few minor injuries or even just a temper tantrum.. 
Nobody ever paid me anywhere near that kind of money for anything in my entire life. I owe these f*ckers zilch in the long run.. 
Still..It ain't coming out of my pocket since I won't even buy a cheap ass hat from them..it's the principle of things. My old man made a pretty good living in the advertising game. He never once gave away free advertising which is exactly what sports memorabilia is.. You pay to do their advertising for them and take food off someone else's table doing so.  Not me.. 

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(04-15-2022, 01:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So that is temporary and they are building a permanent complex? I can't wait to see what that looks like.

It's like the Bengals are a totally different team over the past 2 years. Signing free agents, building a bubble, winning playoff games, etc. Amazing!

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(04-15-2022, 01:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So that is temporary and they are building a permanent complex? I can't wait to see what that looks like.

It's like the Bengals are a totally different team over the past 2 years. Signing free agents, building a bubble, winning playoff games, etc. Amazing!

(04-15-2022, 01:37 PM)Boomer Anderson Wrote: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2022/4/15/23026699/bengals-temporary-indoor-practice-facility-approved-by-city

Looks pretty good. Glad vote was unanimous.

(04-09-2022, 04:43 AM)BurrowTheGoat Wrote:

WE MOVIN ON UP BABY! 

(04-15-2022, 09:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm glad they labeled the Ohio River in the picture. I had no idea what body of water the Brent=Spence was spanning. 

(04-16-2022, 11:52 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I'd say an NFL punter could hit the roof, but punters can practice outside.  Their job does not involve as much physical exertion for as long as the position players.