(03-28-2024, 09:44 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: It’s really funny to me how we some want to get rid of Tee and consider him overrated.  

And then on the other side, we talk up how great Irwin, Yoshi and Charlie jones are.  

Jones and Yoshi may have potential and Irwin is a WR5 or 6 guy, at best… maybe Ps.

Tee Higgins played in 12 games last year-  42, 656, 5td.

Irwin has played in 33 games for career - 43, 586, 5td.

Someone is going to talk about targets and opportunities,  but there is a reason that Irwin averages 1.3 catches per game.

(03-28-2024, 11:59 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Who's been saying that Tee's overrated? Can you highlight their posts?  I like Tee, think that he's a great athlete, but also feel that his contract demands are too much for the team to manage with Jamarr Chase firmly entrenched as WR1 on this team. If Tee and his agent were willing for him to be the best paid WR2, I could make a strong argument for wanting the team to come to an agreement with him.  As it is, with him seeking AAV of $25M+, I feel like he needs to go to a team where he will be a WR1 and get all of the recognition that he deserves.

(03-27-2024, 05:27 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: Those wanting to trade Tee for draft capital do we really want another year with a Laverneus Coles type of number 2 receiver. That team underachieved I think Burrow is better than Palmer he still needs a number 2 receiver.

(03-28-2024, 11:51 AM)Housh Wrote: Man Shannon Sharpe said take a 3rd and move on.

Like ***** shut up.

Tee is really really good. Late 1st or 2nd and a 3rd or we not even picking that shit up.


I’ll take 2 more seasons of Tee over a 3rd any day.

(03-28-2024, 12:32 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: We are talking about separate issues.  Go back through this thread (I’m on phone so hard to highlight).  You will see tee be called overrated, a malcontent, and then we have the whole “we have yoshi and Charlie jones crowd”.  The fact folks are ok with tee leaving bc of two second year guys is laughable.  Borderline histarical.

Tees contract demands are one thing and I agree with you.  Separate from that is the production tee has on the field.  We don’t have anyone on the roster, as of today, that can even begin to be 50% of his role.

(03-28-2024, 12:40 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I don;t see a #1 coming for Tee, I see a 2nd and 4th as probably the market right now for him

(03-28-2024, 12:32 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: We are talking about separate issues.  Go back through this thread (I’m on phone so hard to highlight).  You will see tee be called overrated, a malcontent, and then we have the whole “we have yoshi and Charlie jones crowd”.  The fact folks are ok with tee leaving bc of two second year guys is laughable.  Borderline histarical.

Tees contract demands are one thing and I agree with you.  Separate from that is the production tee has on the field.  We don’t have anyone on the roster, as of today, that can even begin to be 50% of his role.

(03-28-2024, 11:59 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Who's been saying that Tee's overrated? Can you highlight their posts?  I like Tee, think that he's a great athlete, but also feel that his contract demands are too much for the team to manage with Jamarr Chase firmly entrenched as WR1 on this team. If Tee and his agent were willing for him to be the best paid WR2, I could make a strong argument for wanting the team to come to an agreement with him.  As it is, with him seeking AAV of $25M+, I feel like he needs to go to a team where he will be a WR1 and get all of the recognition that he deserves.

(03-28-2024, 01:51 PM)depthchart Wrote: I get where you are coming from and if I moved TEE I would get aggressive early on in the Draft at receiver.

Take near Peak level 2021 Super Bowl Season Stats for both Tyler Boyd & TEE.

Boyd - 67 catches for 828 yards  5 tds

TEE - 74 catches 1,091 yards  6 TDs

Say the Bengals get a 2nd round pick for TEE that is in the 33 to 39 range  (Plus have his Tag Money to spend elsewhere)

If they took Brian Thomas JR in round 1 (TEE replacement) and say they take Xavier Leggette at pick #49 or #80 (Boyd replacement) 

(They still have that other 2nd round pick from the TEE trade to use at DT or OT etc)


Each year there are roughly 5 or so rookie receivers that actually get 800 to over 1,000 yards.


Brian Thomas JR ran a 4.33 forty at 6 foot 3 and 209 pounds with 1,177 yards 17 tds 17.4 yards per catch last year at LSU

Xavier Leggette ran a 4.39 forty at 6 foot 1 and 221 pounds with 1,255 yards 7 tds 17.7 yards per catch last year at South Carolina


*I would get these two rookies and move forward. (Others may like different rookies but use the same concept) 

Then BUILD up other areas of the Team with TEE's tag money and ALL other remaining Draft picks.

Zac & Burrow should be able to make something like this work. GAIN PRODUCTIVITY as the Season progresses &

have the two rookies clicking come Playoff time.

*The Chiefs got 79 catches 938 yards and 7 tds out of 2nd round 4.51 speed ROOKIE Rashee Rice last regular season.

(03-28-2024, 12:32 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: We are talking about separate issues.  Go back through this thread (I’m on phone so hard to highlight).  You will see tee be called overrated, a malcontent, and then we have the whole “we have yoshi and Charlie jones crowd”.  The fact folks are ok with tee leaving bc of two second year guys is laughable.  Borderline histarical.

Tees contract demands are one thing and I agree with you.  Separate from that is the production tee has on the field.  We don’t have anyone on the roster, as of today, that can even begin to be 50% of his role.

(03-28-2024, 02:33 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I understand your thoughts. I do think we would need to wait until we knew we had Thomas with pick 18. So, a trade on day 2 knowing the other WR or another player is available with the pick we get from Higgins. If we trade him prior to the draft, then we could miss out on our board. 

(03-28-2024, 11:02 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: what helped the chiefs in the playoffs was Kelce finding the fountain of youth. He was washed all season, and then stepped it up when it mattered

(03-28-2024, 03:27 PM)Nately120 Wrote: The current Chiefs are like the Brady era Patriots and old school Hulk Hogan.  They always suffer some losses early and people go "Woahhhhh look who is vulnerable!  Is this the end?" and then they turn it on and win at the end and the PPV ends when them posing victorious.

Actually, we've been doing this same thing lately where we are a middling or under .500 team early and we are like "Meh, Burrow will just Hulk-up and go on a 9 game winning streak and we'll be fine."  I will say though when KC got beaten to a pulp by the Raiders and their no-name QB it really looked like they were done for...just like Hulk Hogan taking Randy Savage's flying elbow in the main event in Wrestlemania V.  What a bunch of marks we are.

They should eat a Pylon instead of a ring turnbuckle pad.  

(03-28-2024, 01:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Does trading Tee help us win in 2024? I say maybe, depends on if we hit on the draft. Will his value be higher in 2025? I say yes as the 2024 WR class is excellent, most likely will be worse in 2025.

I also think it depends on the draft position of team seeking a trade for Tee. A 2nd round from the Pats is close to a 1st round pick. Bengals should listen to any team with top 5 pick in 2024 second round. They could get:

1st round - OT, OG, CB or WR
Top 5 2nd round pick - OT, OG, CB, DT
Our 2nd round pick - DT, OT, OG, WR, or CB

We can get 3 very good prospects in. the top 49 of the draft, with 2 in the top 37 of the draft.
We will also gain 22 million in cap space to use possibly for a guard like Risner or Peat

(03-28-2024, 11:51 AM)Housh Wrote: Man Shannon Sharpe said take a 3rd and move on.

Like ***** shut up.

Tee is really really good. Late 1st or 2nd and a 3rd or we not even picking that shit up.


I’ll take 2 more seasons of Tee over a 3rd any day.

(03-28-2024, 03:33 PM)depthchart Wrote: Which NFL Team is George "the Animal" Steele ?

They should eat a Pylon instead of a ring turnbuckle pad.  

(03-28-2024, 03:47 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think production is more important than leverage in year 2. If Higgins is injured or has a bad year, his value is worse for the Bengals, but it also would hurt Tee. Who would want to pay a receiver #1 WR money if they felt he was an injury liability or tanked the season.

On other hand if he has a great year, his value escalates both for team and for Tee in my humble opinion.

(03-28-2024, 02:33 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I understand your thoughts. I do think we would need to wait until we knew we had Thomas with pick 18. So, a trade on day 2 knowing the other WR or another player is available with the pick we get from Higgins. If we trade him prior to the draft, then we could miss out on our board.