(02-17-2025, 07:13 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: here is the problem, tell me how we are better than this year with these deals ?, we need to spend a good amount in other areas also, if Burrow restructures can't we use it also in areas of greater need. 

(02-18-2025, 12:36 AM)Destro Wrote: And if he refuses to sign the tag, what then?

(02-18-2025, 12:36 AM)Destro Wrote: And if he refuses to sign the tag, what then?

(02-15-2025, 11:53 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote:

The Bengals are on hook for the LEAST amount of money for players that aren't the QB.

In. The. Entire. League.

They can pay EVERYONE and add others. https://t.co/M8CEx9QWgt

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) February 16, 2025

I just saw this and thought it was relevant.

(02-17-2025, 10:06 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's nice to get excited about the possibilities of what the Bengals could net for Tee, but keep in mind the fact that they also know about his injury history.

(02-18-2025, 01:02 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Goodberry is aware QB pay is part of the total salary cap isnt he?  Why would he leave out Burrow's huge hit on the total salary cap?  You cant just ignore that part of the salary cap because you have an agenda.  

The Bengals have a couple of free agents in Higgins and Hill they need to replace or re-sign just to get back to last years 9-8 team talent level.  According to over the cap the Bengals effective cap space is about 43 million.  If they were to give Higgins 30 million, that would leave just 13 million for Chase and Hendrickson's raise/extension.  Jamarr's 5th year option will pay him 21.8 million.  If you gave JaMarr the full 13 million cap left, that would pay him 34.8 million this year when Chase will want 35+ million on average.  In this scenario Trey Hendrickson gets no raise and BJ is gone with no replacement.  I hope Burrow, Chase and Higgins can score 50 points a game or play defensive if they are going to take up that much total cap space.

(02-17-2025, 09:58 PM)puddycat Wrote: Two firsts is a very high price, but it's a much better price if you are a playoff team looking to get over the hump.  A few teams come to mind:

Buffalo: Always looking for another WR1, but they are in cap hell and really to need to spend on defense.  However, their pick this year is 30 and the most recent was Kincaid at 25.
Rams: Affordable if they move on from Cooper Kupp, very few round 1 picks in recent years but pick 23 average in last 2 years.
Washington:  Assuming they aren't in the Miles Garrett sweepstakes (or they don't happen), they will have a QB under a rookie contract for 4 more years.  Higgins is the kind of payer that would complement McLaurin and has the toughness they look for.  After picking at 2 for Jayden Daniels, they are picking at 29 this year..  I expect them to have another winning season next year although they are in the same division as Philli, so a pick in the 20s.
Chargers: Lots of cap space.  Need a a true #1 and RZ target. They took Joe Alt at 6 and pick 22 this year.  How confident are they in a division with the Chiefs and a rising Denver team to commit next year's pick?
Steelers: Lots of cap space for team looking to add to Pickens as a head-case #1.  It would have a bonus of taking a WR away from the Bengals. OTOH, the Steelers love their draft picks. No one knows more than Bengals fans that the Steelers rarely have losing records; their pick this year is 21 and last year was 20.

(02-14-2025, 07:18 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Because they are cheap. 

If they would have extended Chase & Hendrickson last year and inked Tee, just think how much cheaper those deals eould have been? 

No way Higgins gets $35 last year, he could have been had for $25, easy. And Chase & Trey ate gonna be at least $5 mil more each. 

That's at least $20 mil. That is a Pro Bowl/All Pro level G. Or darn close to that at DE/CB. 

(02-18-2025, 12:27 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Today (Feb 18th) is now the first day they can tag him if they are going that route. They have until 4 PM March 4th.

(02-18-2025, 12:35 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I would hope they don't use the tag until the last day, just in case they can actually get the long-term deal done before that and could use the tag for someone else.
Only caveat being I don't know who else would be worthy of the tag, so may be no reason to wait until 3/4.

(02-18-2025, 02:29 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I don't have the best understanding of the salary cap and all the ways it can be manipulated. But it's clear to me reading your post that you don't have a very good understanding. 

(02-18-2025, 06:57 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Its not hard to understand.  You have a limited amount of dollars to spend every year.  You can push a larger percentage of a contract to later years but even those later years have a limited amount of dollars available.  At some point you have to pay the Piper.  

(02-18-2025, 01:02 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Goodberry is aware QB pay is part of the total salary cap isnt he?  Why would he leave out Burrow's huge hit on the total salary cap?  You cant just ignore that part of the salary cap because you have an agenda.  

The Bengals have a couple of free agents in Higgins and Hill they need to replace or re-sign just to get back to last years 9-8 team talent level.  According to over the cap the Bengals effective cap space is about 43 million.  If they were to give Higgins 30 million, that would leave just 13 million for Chase and Hendrickson's raise/extension.  Jamarr's 5th year option will pay him 21.8 million.  If you gave JaMarr the full 13 million cap left, that would pay him 34.8 million this year when Chase will want 35+ million on average.  In this scenario Trey Hendrickson gets no raise and BJ is gone with no replacement.  I hope Burrow, Chase and Higgins can score 50 points a game or play defensive if they are going to take up that much total cap space.

(02-18-2025, 06:57 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Its not hard to understand.  You have a limited amount of dollars to spend every year.  You can push a larger percentage of a contract to later years but even those later years have a limited amount of dollars available.  At some point you have to pay the Piper.  

(02-18-2025, 06:57 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Its not hard to understand.  You have a limited amount of dollars to spend every year.  You can push a larger percentage of a contract to later years but even those later years have a limited amount of dollars available.  At some point you have to pay the Piper.  

(02-18-2025, 12:37 AM)pulses Wrote: He'll have to sit out the whole season and not get shit and then they'll tag him again the next season.