(04-28-2017, 03:42 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Defending himself from what?  She shoved him. He was in no danger.  And Christ, if you want to argue a physical response was necessary than shove her back.  Don't throw a God damn right cross.

What planet am I living on?  What video are you guys watching?  I don't know how you guys can act like that behavior ok.  It's honestly depressing.

(04-28-2017, 04:13 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: 1.) Yes, I can. Did you have a point to this profound statement?

2.) I'm a ***** because I would boycott a business over something that I strongly disagree with?  I'm not sure I follow. Would I be a ***** if it came out that Kelloggs make Frosted Flakes with Bald Eagle and I decided to not eat their cereal?  Is that a ***** move?  Fwiw, I wouldn't boycott the team solely because of this, but because of a number of things.  Not that it really matters to my point though.

3.) How do you know it's instead of, rather than in addition to?  You don't what other causes I adopt or what other forums I participate in.  And the idea that I can't complain about something I find to be reprehensible because there are worse things is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard.  If I see or hear something that I disagree with, and I have an opportunity to share my opinion on it, then I will it.  It has as much to do with the forum as it does the issue itself.

I suspect that if I complained about the injustice that is favoritism Pittsburgh receive you'd have little to no issue. I wouldn't receive this lecture about what I can and can't be outraged by.  Hey, Pittsburgh sucks, valid complaint, right?  But now I complain about this and here comes the lazy and phony rebuttal about children starving in Africa.  I can share my opinion on the Denver Broncos O-Line, but I can't talk about this poor girl taking a haymaker to the face because of Syria.  You'll let me all day about that new free agent, which is worthy of my time but the minute I rip a player you like you'll become the champion for more meaningful causes.

What a joke.  

(04-28-2017, 03:44 PM)YsCascadia Wrote: I can agree with this.

The only thing I would say I disagree with is continue to punish someone if they are sincere in their apology.

I don't want Mixon either.  However, based on an article recently it sounds like he did in fact offer an apology to Molitor.

I don't believe in piling on.  He struck her, he was wrong for doing so.  He was wrong for harassing her and following her and threatening her. 

If he has acknowledged those things and strives to be a better person, then I will give him a chance.

However, if he continues with the lame excuses like, racism, she hit me first, feared for my life.  Then I don't want someone that is so scared of a young girl to be on my team that will have bigger men ready to hit him.

(04-28-2017, 04:17 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Says who?

(04-28-2017, 03:21 PM)Lawless_1 Wrote: I never realized how sensitive our fanbase is. I showed the Mixon video to my girlfriend who had been in an abusive relationship prior to me and she came to the same conclusion I did. He defended himself after the woman struck him first. To me he is the best talent at RB in the draft. He will be the pick if he is there.

(04-28-2017, 03:55 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: For those that want Mixon on the team, I have to wonder if you would feel the same if the girl who's face he broke was your wife/girlfriend, sister, mom, etc? 

Something tells me if that was the case, you wouldn't want Mixon anywhere near this team. Yet, because it's a girl that you don't know, or have any personal attachment to, it's viewed through a very different lens.

I just don't get how anyone who watched the full incident video and the police interviews can feel comfortable about drafting Mixon. 

(04-28-2017, 04:04 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I agree with this post more than any other in the thread. Yes it happened, yes it was despicable, yes he did respond to a 5 with a 100.

I also agree that this was 3 years ago and he's said and done the right things since.

I'm willing to give him a shot as a player...it's repeat offenders (like Pacman) that I think we should dump or avoid.

(04-28-2017, 04:14 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Didn't know that one. Possible serious anger issues? On a team that already has Pacman and his anger issues?

(04-28-2017, 04:22 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Good point. Maybe he just has insane anger issues. We don't know why he reacted the way he did. But considering racism was right in the middle of it, I think there's a good chance that was the primary reason. I think the defending himself argument is weak. I think it was a reaction to racism. That is the only way I can rationalize it. If he was truly responding to just her little shove and slap, then he is a dangerous human being.

However, considering he hasn't really gotten in any real trouble since, I have a feeling it wasn't just "this guy gets hulk level angry at the slightest provocation." I feel like it has to be about racism.

(04-28-2017, 04:15 PM)Okeana Wrote: please watch my previous post and watch the video at .25 speed.  Should he have followed them in maybe not.  Ive heard plenty of accounts that she and her friends said something to him outside because they had thought he said something when it was actually his friends.  He went in to confront the guy because he didn't like to be called out by a gay man.  At no point during the conversation at the table did I see him say anything to or even look at her.  She just stuck up for her friend.

(04-28-2017, 04:30 PM)Wyche Wrote: IF Joe Mixon played for the Stoolers.....what would everyone's stance be on him?  Be honest.....

(04-28-2017, 04:31 PM)Big Boss Wrote: I'd be pissed having to play against him twice a year, if he lives up to his potential.  

(04-28-2017, 03:55 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: For those that want Mixon on the team, I have to wonder if you would feel the same if the girl who's face he broke was your wife/girlfriend, sister, mom, etc? 

Something tells me if that was the case, you wouldn't want Mixon anywhere near this team. Yet, because it's a girl that you don't know, or have any personal attachment to, it's viewed through a very different lens.

I just don't get how anyone who watched the full incident video and the police interviews can feel comfortable about drafting Mixon. 

(04-28-2017, 04:29 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I've watched the video many time, and I suggest you watch it again. At the 20 mark, he is looking directly at her and does say something...then he turns to the friend. 

He could have chosen not to follow them.
He could have chosen not to confront them.
He could have chosen not to put his draft stock in jeopardy.

Instead, he chose the Pacman route. 

(04-28-2017, 04:16 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Wasn't the parking ticket incident a while ago?

(04-28-2017, 04:34 PM)Wyche Wrote: Besides the obvious.....we got on here and rail about Jerry Porter and his thuggish behavior....we talk about their dirty play, and Pig Pen being a rapist.....but here, on this thread, we have people sticking up for a guy that knocked the cornbread hell out of a petite white chick, and he doesn't even play for our team!

#perspective

(04-28-2017, 03:35 PM)YsCascadia Wrote: Wrong.... Wrong.... Wrong....

Mixon made sexual advances toward her, and she didn't care much for his "Muh Dik".  After that he followed her and harassed her and her friends.

However, an article came out recently had her stating that he apologized and that she has accepted it and they both want to move past it.


Based off of that new information, I would take Mixon over Cook every day of the week.  A sincere apology is all that any person could ask for from him.  Sounds like he made it.

The only reason I didn't want him before was due to his handlers attempt to deflect blame of what he did to making it sound like he was defending himself from a racist white person.  It was was disgusting as to how they knew people would side with him, like you, just by calling her a racist. 

Even in the video that shows her hitting him.  He walks in and goes to her booth, blocking her exit.  After the multiple harassment, and him clearly blocking her escape at what point does she get to become physical?  He could have left at any time, chose not to.