(08-19-2019, 02:54 AM)SladeX Wrote: People who are not lazy can still benefit from competition.

(08-19-2019, 02:52 AM)SladeX Wrote: AD had a fire in his eyes that year he didn't have before, and an intensity. Something lit a fire under his butt. 

(08-19-2019, 09:00 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No they don't.

That is why the Patriots got rid of Garropola.

(08-19-2019, 10:03 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: They got rid of him because Tom Brady is showing no signs of being done anytime soon, and they decided to get something for JG.

(08-19-2019, 10:12 AM)grampahol Wrote: And all this time I thought it was because Brady uses some mysterious mental enhancement formula called the Vibrating Pliability Sphere...Yup, no doubt about it..Sounds legit. 

(08-19-2019, 09:02 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No he didn't.

(08-19-2019, 08:43 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Andy isn't lazy, he just seems like a good old fashioned family man who doesn't dedicate an extraordinary amount of time to his craft.

(08-17-2019, 07:21 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Here's what I love in this whole deal....

The Bengals have given AD a 1st rd TE, 2 1st rd WRs, a 2nd round WR, 3 1st round O-lineman, and a 2nd round O-lineman.

At what point is he just a bad leader and just a so so QB who was fortunate enough to have a ton of talent around him?

I mean, who can forget these inspiring gems of leadership? Sounds like the whole team is ready to go after it after he fires them up. Drew Brees, take note ...




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(08-17-2019, 07:54 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Nowhere did I say or imply that all of the Bengals issues are 1 person's fault. The fact that you have to invent a position for me (straw man) rather than actually address my points just shows that I'm right. However, the QB position is by miles more important and influential than any on the field. You cannot win a Supwerbowl with bad QB play. There are plenty of games, 2 playoff games included, where AD should get the majority of the blame for the Bengals not winning. Strange how Hill, Burfict, and Jones get crapped on so hard for their 1 game meltdown, but AD misses a wide open target for a game winning TD (Texans) and has 4 turnovers in a row to start a 2nd half with the lead (Chargers) and people are quite forgiving. Why is that, I wonder?

Since you seem to struggle, here's a link to some reading comprehension classes: https://www.ixl.com/ela/topics?partner=google&campaign=179162635&adGroup=8821318675&gclid=Cj0KCQjwy97qBRDoARIsAITONTIESik_g7dRpwW0r4A9NNV-e8ec9XY-XXKf4Gy49LQg3usdZP7y6CAaAneIEALw_wcB


K-4th are on me should you decide to enhance yourself. This probably won't "miraculously fix everything", but it's a start. Just like changing a QB.

(08-16-2019, 09:36 AM)corpjet Wrote: I know its pre season but how can you not like what you have seen from Ryan Finley.

Yes it wasn't against the ones, but the kid has looked poised in the pocket, makes the throws he should and has the prototypical size for a NFL Quarterback.  He doesn't have a cannon for an arm but I think we are looking at our future QB and don't see us resigning Andy.

With all that said we need to fix the misfit O-line next year in the draft and free agency.  The "island of misfit" toys as I call it is an embarrassment.  We have whiffed on o-lineman taken early (Ced, J Fish, Price) but we need to build from the trenches out.

Call me optimistic but I think Finley will be more than serviceable once we can get some protection and save $$$ while having him on his rookie contract.  Use Andys $$$ if we need to go out and spend for a "book end" tackle.

(08-19-2019, 01:09 PM)SladeX Wrote: So what was different in 2015? Hue was OC in 2014. What changed in Andys  NFL world was the QB2. Could be something in his personal life clicked within him to cause the shift. But I wouldn't know about that, I can only see the public side of his professional life.

(08-17-2019, 07:54 PM)PDub80 Wrote: You cannot win a Supwerbowl with bad QB play

(08-20-2019, 09:46 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I think it would make more sense to keep Dalton, not sign AJ Green, and use THAT money to sign a book end tackle.  When kept clean, Dalton is a surgeon, and he has done it in regular season games consistently for years now.  

(08-20-2019, 10:35 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Ben Roethlisberger and his 22 QB rating says, "Hi!"

(08-20-2019, 11:09 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Is that a rare exception, or a common occurrence?

*rhetorical question*

(08-20-2019, 11:09 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Is that a rare exception, or a common occurrence?

*rhetorical question*

(08-20-2019, 11:49 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Doesn't matter.  PDUB stated his opinion as an absolute.  Phil just corrected him.

(08-20-2019, 02:10 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Yep. You CAN win with bad QB play. It's HIGHLY unlikely and takes an massive effort from the rest of the team, but it CAN be done.

(08-17-2019, 08:09 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote:  

FWIW, my opinion is that the road to winning starts at the top.  The front office has to be fully committed to winning a championship, be willing to make all the right moves as far as personnel goes, and set a tone that resonates throughout the entire organization.  Our folks at the top took a big step this year, by hiring a fresh, young personality to lead the team.  I'm not totally convinced that the front office is committed yet, as they failed to do much in terms of personnel acquisitions on the open market.  Maybe they're waiting to see what Zac Taylor does with the hand he's been dealt?  We'll have to wait and see.