(06-29-2020, 06:53 PM)jason Wrote: I'm now firmly in the 0% chance there will be an NFL season in 2020. It figures that the year the Bengals land their stud QB of the future that things get whacky. On top of that, if they don't play this season, we'll be paying AJ Green (who I was in favor of tagging) on the franchise tag... It'll be damn near 3 years since he's last seen the field at that point.

(06-29-2020, 06:53 PM)jason Wrote: I'm now firmly in the 0% chance there will be an NFL season in 2020. It figures that the year the Bengals land their stud QB of the future that things get whacky. On top of that, if they don't play this season, we'll be paying AJ Green (who I was in favor of tagging) on the franchise tag... It'll be damn near 3 years since he's last seen the field at that point.

(06-29-2020, 07:06 PM)Nately120 Wrote: At least we get to see Ben arrive to the 2021 training camp nearly 2 years off the field and looking like Jamarcus Russell.

(07-02-2020, 11:07 PM)jason Wrote: Sammi Sosa and Jamarcus Russell's love child.

(07-07-2020, 11:23 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I think the logistics of having a season are going to be more difficult than some think.  Acknowledging this doesn't have to mean you're subscribing to the theory that Covid-19 = The Black Plague.  It doesn't need to be a political discussion either.  If you look at how other the leagues, and even other businesses are approaching testing then I think you can safely assume that the NFL will follow a similar suit.

It seems to be commonplace that a posiitive test results in a 14 day quarantine, which is then followed by producing a negative test result before returning to work.  Now imagine if you have a player, or two, or three, test positive over a week or so span.  These guys are going to be out for a minimum of two weeks, and up to 3 or 4 weeks total.  Then imagine another case or two coming a week or so behind these.  They'll overlap. And they'll continue to overlap week to week.

Clemson just saw 23 football players test positive a few weeks ago.  Imagine what happens if this were to occur in season?  What happens if 23 players on The Bengals test positive for Covid-19 in the middle of October?  This is a question you have to have an answer for.  There has to be some type of contigency plan built into the season if this were to occur.  You can't simply say this won't happen.  It did happen, just a few weeks ago.

This league will have star players that will be sidelined at some point during the season, due to a positive test.  It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, and who.  What does this mean from a competition standpoint?  How do you prepare for, or combat this scenario?  I don't have that answer, and I don't believe the NFL does either.

Getting further into the sheer logistics of everything, things like travel, it becomes even all the more murky.  Let's say NFL Team A has a player or two produce a positive test on Weds.  What hurdles will they face when fly out to another city just days later?  If you're the Hilton Hotel in Miami, and you've got a team coming in of 100+ employees what protections and safeguards might you look at?  

The MLB is already running into testing problems only a few weeks in.  They're supposed to be testing every two or so days.  But they're already seeing results coming in later than the next scheduled test.  One team just had to cancel their practice on Monday because they still haven't received their results from Fri.  And keep in mind, their roster is less than half the size of an NFL team.  They also have less staff as well.

It's real easy to say "None of these guys are going to die, most will probably be asymptomatic" and use that as a reason that they should or will play.  But when you start considering just how difficult this entire process will be I think you'll understand that it just might not be doable.

If MLB and the NBA start up without a hitch then that will tell you everything you need to know.  But I think this is going to be a disaster, and both will either not start at all, or shut it down.  Everything surrounding this issue right now is a logistical nightmare.

(07-07-2020, 11:43 AM)Goalpost Wrote: If they could get better results with the anti body tests, that would help.  The info remains so hazy with this virus, but my understanding is that many people might have already had it, and didn't know it.  This would show up in your anti bodies, hence, supposedly you'd be immune from getting it again.

(07-07-2020, 11:39 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote:  I do think we will have a much truer death rate by September/October which my best guess now will show it is no more deadly than the flu when the tests are completed. 

(07-07-2020, 01:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What makes you say this?

Evidence from populations where almost 100% have been tested, like on the cruise ship Diamond Princess, seem to indicate that the death rate is at least 0.5% which is five times more deadly than the flu.

And, of course, almost half of the US population takes flu shots to protect them, so even if the death rate is the same Covid-19 would be twice as deadly because their is no vaccine to protect half the population.

(07-07-2020, 02:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Simple Math

Have you seen the death rates for healthy people under 65? How many people were 65 and older on that cruise ship with an underlying condition that dies? 

(07-07-2020, 02:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote:  Cases going up while deaths coming down, that is a great news, not bad news.

(07-07-2020, 01:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What makes you say this?

Evidence from populations where almost 100% have been tested, like on the cruise ship Diamond Princess, seem to indicate that the death rate is at least 0.5% which is five times more deadly than the flu.

And, of course, almost half of the US population takes flu shots to protect them, so even if the death rate is the same Covid-19 would be twice as deadly because their is no vaccine to protect half the population.

(07-07-2020, 02:34 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Death rate DRAMATICALLY changes based on age and underlying conditions. 99.9% of NFL athletes are in no significant danger of dying from Covid. And if that .1% is in danger from dying from the virus, then they shouldn't play. It's really that simple. 

(07-07-2020, 02:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I don't think anyone is too concerned NFL players are going to die from it, but players aren't going to be able to play if they test positive which is the NFL-related issue.  If half of your starters can test positive for covid and need to be quarantined or go to the hospital I don't think they'll be on the field playing professional-level football.

Though I could picture a fever-delirious Joe Burrow handing the ball to explosive-diarrhea Joe Mixon for the score.

(07-07-2020, 03:22 PM)bengals1969 Wrote: The season isn't up to New York to start and stop.  Mayors and governors get a vote along with the NFL Commissioner and some may vote No regardless what the NFL wants.  The Wuhan virus measures have now descended into a political swamp of noxious fumes.  So many narratives on death rates, infection rates, ways of communication. 
Me, the unwashed and informed, I say get going with the season and allow fans to come in some capacity.  

(07-07-2020, 02:34 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Death rate DRAMATICALLY changes based on age and underlying conditions. 99.9% of NFL athletes are in no significant danger of dying from Covid. And if that .1% is in danger from dying from the virus, then they shouldn't play. It's really that simple.