(10-24-2021, 09:58 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I.think.It was Carmen.and Hopkins.that did a
Devastating double team block on Williams
Springing Perine for that 46 yd jaunt.
Funny the Anti Pollack crowd is silent now

(10-25-2021, 11:29 AM)fredtoast Wrote: To be fair Burrow was under a lot of pressure yesterday.  The pick was caused by pressure.

But like you said, the Ravens are one of the best teams at getting pressure on the QB.

I was against Turner before he coached a single game here.  I am very happy we replaced him with Pollack.  But there is still work that needs to be done.

(10-30-2021, 06:28 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: ESPN ranks us 22nd in pass block win rate:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings#pbwrteam

We are 10th in run block win rate though, which is good.

Overall PFF grades:
Jonah Williams - 68.5
Quinton Spain - 75.2
Trey Hopkins - 45.3
Jackson Carmen - 44.4
Riley Reiff - 64.4

Yes, we are much improved from last year. Yes, Pollack is a good coach and is getting much more out of Spain alone. Yes it's great that Jonah is healthy, and Reiff was a good add. But there's still plenty of room for improvement.

Overall, we're middle of the pack. Trending in the right direction, but there's still work to be done. Be fair about this.

(10-30-2021, 08:37 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I hope so. I'm not worried about Jonah at all. Spain and Reiff have also been very good.

Carman to me is still a question mark, if I may dare say so, and Hopkins has also been pretty blech. We can get by with this line though. It's most definitely improved over last year.

Part of the Bengals resurgence along the OL has been led by Trey Hopkins from the interior. Here are his splits:

Weeks 1-2: 2 sacks, 4 QB Pressures
Week 3-7: 0 sacks, 4 QB Pressures

— Andrew Russell (@PFF_AndrewR) October 30, 2021

(10-30-2021, 09:27 PM)Synric Wrote: Trey Hopkins allowed 2 sacks and 4 pressures weeks 1 & 2. In weeks 3-7 he has allowed 0 sacks 4 pressures. Hopkins has been alot better than people realize after a very rough start.

(10-30-2021, 09:48 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I put heavy stock in the PFF grades. They're paid to watch every play, and they're unbiased. They've seen things they don't like with both Hopkins and Carman. If they were getting way better, they're grades should be on the rise, but they're not.

So I defer to them.

Yall are free to disagree. I'm not trying to rain on the positivity parade. I'm just looking at the ESPN win rate and PFF grades, and I personally don't think it's to the point where I can call it a strength yet. We're better for sure, but I want to see more.

(10-30-2021, 09:45 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: All I did was post a tweet lol.

(10-30-2021, 09:53 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Agree

I believe Hopkins is the weak link on the Oline. I've never been as high on him as many here have. At best he's average. Carman is still young and needs more reps so I'll give him a little leeway. 

(10-30-2021, 09:48 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I put heavy stock in the PFF grades. They're paid to watch every play, and they're unbiased. They've seen things they don't like with both Hopkins and Carman. If they were getting way better, their grades should be on the rise, but they're not.

So I defer to them.

Yall are free to disagree. I'm not trying to rain on the positivity parade. I'm just looking at the ESPN win rate and PFF grades, and I personally don't think it's to the point where I can call it a strength yet. We're better for sure, but I want to see more.