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(03-19-2025, 08:55 PM)jj22 Wrote: Hunter extension  shakes up any contract negotiations.

(03-19-2025, 05:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Good points and yeah, he could easily be gone before 17.


Truth. An elite player at any of those positions would take our D to another level. We have a bunch of solid guys besides Trey is about all we got.

Logan when he was healthy and Golden was his LB coach looked like he could be elite maybe, but he just hasn't been the same the last few years.

I think Dax has elite potential but he also has had trouble staying healthy and has been moved all over the place stunting his growth.


I like Mike Green too and of course Emmanwori. Jalon Walker, Walter Nolen, Kenneth Grant. One of these players should fall to us.

(03-19-2025, 10:08 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: It's much easier to hit when you are picking in the top 5, twice.  Those are generally cant miss picks.  Mims was picked 17th.  Jonah Williams was 11th.  The highest pick Zac has spent on defense was Myles Murphy at #28.  Overall Zac Taylor has spent 7 1st and 2nd round picks on offense vs 5 on defense.  Also, the picks on offense have been much higher so all picks are not the same.

Offense:  1, 5, 11, 17, 33, 46, 52

Defense:  28, 31, 49, 60, 60

(03-19-2025, 10:08 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: It's much easier to hit when you are picking in the top 5, twice.  Those are generally cant miss picks.  Mims was picked 17th.  Jonah Williams was 11th.  The highest pick Zac has spent on defense was Myles Murphy at #28.  Overall Zac Taylor has spent 7 1st and 2nd round picks on offense vs 5 on defense.  Also, the picks on offense have been much higher so all picks are not the same.

Offense:  1, 5, 11, 17, 33, 46, 52

Defense:  28, 31, 49, 60, 60

(03-19-2025, 10:24 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: They need to find their versions of Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper DeJean. Philly got those guys at 22 and 40 and both were very good starters on a SB winning team.

(03-19-2025, 02:15 PM)Goalpost Wrote: His combine numbers, with a 9.95 RAS, were impressive.

I really like his film and the number of things he can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCaKuJQ2Bg

(03-19-2025, 06:10 PM)samhain Wrote: I know they play different positions, just speaking to the lack of production in college despite physical tools.  I hate when they pick those kinds of players regardless of position.

(03-19-2025, 06:27 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I live in the heart of SEC country where at least 5-6 SEC games are aired every Saturday. ACC, SEC, and thankfully now BIG10 with the FOX acquisition. Ts, if you get a chance go watch some tape on Nolen. I think it will help to ease your concern a little.

Unless a player like Warren, Booker, or Jackson falls; Nolen and Grant are the two clear choices or so it seems. 

(03-19-2025, 08:52 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I agree, the defense needs another playmaker. That's why I'm so hooked on Nick Emmanwori. Getting an air traffic controller back in the middle of the secondary will fix a lot of things wrong with the defense, as well as make life easier for the front four to get to the QB.

(03-19-2025, 09:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: 6.5 sacks and 14 TFL this past season is lack of production?

(03-19-2025, 10:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think the LBers looked worse because of no Reader to keep lineman off of them.

They also took weird angles sometimes.

I'd probably take Jihaad with what I know now. I haven't did my draft evals yet. And I may not have time to anyways.

(03-19-2025, 10:41 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: The Texans just outlined how to take care of this.

Via Tom Pelissero of NFL Media: “The #Texans and Danielle Hunter have agreed to a one-year, $35.6 million contract extension that makes him the NFL’s second-highest paid defensive end, per sources. Hunter will make $32M this season — a $12.5M raise — and $55.1M ($54.1M fully guaranteed) over the next two seasons. Deal negotiated by @ZekeSandhu
of @KlutchSports.”

As we know, it’s not really a one-year extension. It’s a new, two-year contract. Hunter was due to make $19.5 million in 2025. He’ll now make $55.1 million over the next two years, an average of $27.55 million per year.

(03-19-2025, 10:03 PM)bengalsboy Wrote: They are indeed.Some DE from the Texans.Named Danielle Hunter.Just signed a  1 year contract for $35 million!

(03-19-2025, 10:08 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ok this was pretty good.

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(03-19-2025, 10:30 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Over the last 3 drafts 8 out of10, 1st through third round picks have gone to defense.  

Prior to that, the bengals went way out of character acquiring vets over a 2 year span:

Reader, Hendrickson, Hill, Larry O, Chido, Vonn.  Lou was gifted a good veteran defense, the issue was he couldn’t coach up ANY of the young guys to help take over the last 3 years.  The 2019-2020 offseason defense addition model is unsustainable.

(03-19-2025, 10:30 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: It’s not like the bengals just say.. we are picking top 5… gonna go offense here.  Burrow and Chase were BPA at the time.  Same for Dax, Murphy, etc when they were getting picked (hindsight 20/20).

You’re really trying to manipulate this into some twisted non truth.  

(03-19-2025, 11:38 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: The offense has been gifted high offensive draft picks.  The defense hasnt.

(03-20-2025, 12:29 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I already mentioned the Eagles, but what about KC? Their best DL (Jones) was drafted 37th, their best LB (Bolton) 58th, and their best DB (McDuffie) 21st.

Spags wasn’t “gifted” a bunch of high picks either, and we’ve all seen his results.

(03-19-2025, 11:38 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: You act as though Lou was gifted this super talented defense.  He was not.  Many of the guys on defense became better football players under Lou's coaching. He made his secondary work with Awuzie and Apple as his #1 and #2 corners.  What did either one of them do before they came to Lou as coach and what did they do after they left Lou?  He took a subpar BJ Hill that the Giants thought so little of they traded him for Billy Price yet Lou made him into a good DT.  Trey Hendrickson flourished under Lou.  Pratt and Wilson were drafted under Lou and have played well.  Which guys on defense is it you think should be much better than what they are because of coaching?  



Im not trying to twist anything.  I pointed out the facts.  You can choose to ignore those facts but it doesnt change what it is.  Under Zac Taylor the Bengals have used 7 1st and 2nd round draft picks on offense while using just 5 on defense.  The picks on offense have also been much higher than the ones used on defense.  That matters a lot which is why you want to have higher draft picks and why they are valued more than lower draft picks even in the 1st round.

Since you mentioned Dax Hill lets use the 2022 draft as an example.  Dax was picked #31, CTB was #60.  If they Bengals had a top 5 pick they take someone like Sauce Garner or Derek Stingley Jr instead or maybe even Kyle Hamilton.  The reason they take Dax or CTB latter is because they were a couple of guy who were left after the more sought after guys were taken.  The Bengals didnt have the option to take Garner or Stingley or Hamilton because those top guys were gone.  If the Bengals dont have top 5 picks they dont get Burrow or Chase.  The offense has been gifted high offensive draft picks.  The defense hasnt.

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(03-20-2025, 07:52 AM)TJHoushmandzadehs Shiny Shoes Wrote: 37 is a much better spot to get a DT than 49; 21 is a much better spot to get a DB than 31.

You’re picking from the next tier down with those picks.When you pick from a lower bucket you are typically picking a lesser athlete or picking an equivalent athlete but with lesser production - which is usually a red flag.

58 is comparable to 65. But just compare the difference in picking 65 (Logan Wilson) or even 72 (Germaine Pratt) to 78 (Malik Jefferson), 87 (Nick Vigil), 99 (Paul Dawson), 118 (Sean Porter).

Picking from the tier down is playing in hard mode. That does matter. You end up gambling on players with red flags who bust. You pick lesser athletes who just don’t have the same impact.

Of course occasionally you’ll get someone who completely outperforms their draft slot - Geno Atkins, Jessie Bates, Tee Higgins. With hindsight the League takes them all in the first round. But for the most part draft position does matter. You’ll do really well to get an impact DE at 28, a star QB outside the top 5, a star CB after about 25, a star tackle after about 15 (we were lucky last year was deep at OT for Mims) etc. But picking 17 this year there’s a chance there’s an elite DE or CB still there. We probably will have our pick of safety of linebacker at 17 should we so wish. We could probably get a really good LB at 49, maybe a S but if we’re looking for DEs, CBs or DTs at 49 they are going to have flawed profiles.

(03-20-2025, 08:47 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: There's been stuff out there over last week that Trey wants to be here and the team and his agent were talking.

Also, saw where the Colts want him.

As cap space of other teams dry up, so do his options.