(03-08-2017, 09:46 AM)Air Force 1 Wrote: Nice...I don't think you can say "He likes to punch girls"...

Kid has admitted that he flat out made a mistake and has apologized for it..

I'm not saying he was right to do but lets not make him public enemy #1.

(03-08-2017, 10:43 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We need to stop bringing in players with off-the-field issues. The lack of discipline destroys the team.

After the playoff loss to Pittsburgh where the team imploded with 2 personal fouls on defense...you'd think we'd learn.

Yet the Bengals see a chance to get a potential 1st or 2nd Round talent in the 4th or 5th Round...and fans will be happy with it.

Any kid that has the impulse to punch a girl at a mall so hard that it shatters here face...has discipline and self-control issues.

(03-08-2017, 11:38 AM)Au165 Wrote: I think it's funny, we took Jeremy Hill who had character red flags and people don't even think about it anymore (He punched a guy from behind in a bar fight and celebrated it), but with this guy we somehow don't want anything to do with him? The guy served his suspension, did his community service, didn't get in trouble again. He should get a second chance and a mid round pick is a low risk for the potential high reward he could be worth. People really don't realize how high a pick he would have been if not for that issue.

(03-08-2017, 11:38 AM)Au165 Wrote: I think it's funny, we took Jeremy Hill who had character red flags and people don't even think about it anymore (He punched a guy from behind in a bar fight and celebrated it), but with this guy we somehow don't want anything to do with him? The guy served his suspension, did his community service, didn't get in trouble again. He should get a second chance and a mid round pick is a low risk for the potential high reward he could be worth. People really don't realize how high a pick he would have been if not for that issue.

(03-08-2017, 12:43 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I'm all for 2nd chances...but the Bengals organization and coaches have shown time and time again that they can't field a team with discipline.

Maybe if we had the organizational structure of the Patriots...this would work.

We've taken shortcut after shortcut with guys...and 0 wins in 26+ years.

(03-08-2017, 01:12 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Anybody can make a mistake once, and should not be punished for it for the rest of their lives. One incident does not a Pacman Jones make.... now, if he has future problems, then that's a different story. I hope they do being him in if they don't take Fournette or Cook because I want Hill out of here, we don't really know where Gio's knee is at, and we don't know if they will keep Rex.....

(03-08-2017, 01:35 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: This guy has had multiple suspensions and they show he has a CLEAR lack of self control. The same issue that repeatedly has kept pacman from truly turning the corner and keeps him a constant liability to his team.

There are only 53 spots on an NFL roster, each one is valuable. It doesn't make sense to waste them on guys who have these types of issues. Why sign a player who has had multiple suspensions? Each game is important and if you miss games for being a hothead than you are hurting your team. Plus the atmosphere in the locker room matters greatly, there were reports of players being fed up with some of our trouble makers after the playoff game, let's not add more guys like that to the fuel the fire

Do you guys really want to be making excuses for the Steelers only beating us because player X was suspended for being an a**hat?

And like it or not, reputation affects everything in this league from the calls the refs make to whether or not the NFL hands down punishment for certain issues. I'd prefer the Bengals focus on drafting players who are good people as well as good players. We have 53 roster spots, 11 draft picks, each one is too valuable to waste on players who can't stay out of trouble. There are well over 300 draft eligible players, you don't need to reach for the character flag guys to make your team better, in reality they usually just make you worse.

Marvin has already said he can't keep babysitting these guys and appeared to have learned his lesson after all of these years. If we draft Mixon he clearly has not. This is a deep RB class so grab one who won't be a liability.

(03-08-2017, 01:46 PM)Au165 Wrote: Hill sucker punched a guy in the back of the head and celebrated with buddies as the guy was out on the floor, he hasn't done it since and has not been in trouble. Most people didn't care about it when we drafted him, not sure why people pretend like a bad decision is destined to lead to more down the road. People make bad decisions, this kid is one of the few big time college players who has actually had consequences because of it.