(04-28-2017, 02:28 AM)kevin Wrote: Adding Myles Garrett to D Line....then adding best all around player in draft in Jabrill Peppers as a DB, LB, offensive player if needed, kick returner. ....and a Trump, Eifert type TE/ WR in Njoku. ....To me this is a draft that can rebuild a team like drafting AJ Green and Dalton....I think Hue Jackson and Browns did great.  Factor in adding Zeitler who is still young. ...

My Bengals may find Cleveland becomes tough on D as they were in 80's before they split to Baltimore.  Garrett a real monster on D Line and Peppers on field messes up hurry up offense because he can play all over field.  Browns were getting tore up by TE's so he is in to stop TE's. but he can do so much more.  He will excel on the safety blitz. I really like Cleveland getting away from drafting QB.  Look, Carson didn't even play for Bengals his rookie year.  Browns need to look more at QB Hue drafted last year.  Browns could add more talent after one.   The Browns will not be an easy team to play in Hue Jacksons second year.  

The Bengals now must add Cleveland as a hard game with Baltimore and Pittsburg.  The AFC North is getting even tougher as Hue Jackson rebuilds the once mighty Cleveland team.

(04-28-2017, 03:35 AM)J24 Wrote: I think they might surprise and win 5 to 7 games this year if they can manage decent QB play. I like what they did  though this off season;improve interior offensive line check, improve defensive athleticism check, and get a beast of a defensive player to build your d around check. All they need is a decent QB and their a playoff caliber team.

(04-28-2017, 11:06 AM)magikod Wrote: I think the Browns will be pretty good in another year.

(04-29-2017, 02:09 AM)Stewy Wrote: The Browns win he draft AGAIN.  This will help them improve to 0-0 at the start of the season and go downhill from there as usual.

(04-28-2017, 11:30 AM)kevin Wrote: I'm afraid with them having back to back year top DE picks,  our O Line is going to find them plenty tough this year.  We can no longer assume playing Browns is a Bengals win.  I just hope Dalton gets enough blocking to win. 

(04-28-2017, 02:28 AM)kevin Wrote: Adding Myles Garrett to D Line....then adding best all around player in draft in Jabrill Peppers as a DB, LB, offensive player if needed, kick returner. ....and a Trump, Eifert type TE/ WR in Njoku. ....To me this is a draft that can rebuild a team like drafting AJ Green and Dalton....I think Hue Jackson and Browns did great.  Factor in adding Zeitler who is still young. ...

My Bengals may find Cleveland becomes tough on D as they were in 80's before they split to Baltimore.  Garrett a real monster on D Line and Peppers on field messes up hurry up offense because he can play all over field.  Browns were getting tore up by TE's so he is in to stop TE's. but he can do so much more.  He will excel on the safety blitz. I really like Cleveland getting away from drafting QB.  Look, Carson didn't even play for Bengals his rookie year.  Browns need to look more at QB Hue drafted last year.  Browns could add more talent after one.   The Browns will not be an easy team to play in Hue Jacksons second year.  

The Bengals now must add Cleveland as a hard game with Baltimore and Pittsburg.  The AFC North is getting even tougher as Hue Jackson rebuilds the once mighty Cleveland team.

(04-29-2017, 12:41 AM)Beaker Wrote: Garrett takes plays off....gonna be another Clowney...lots of talent, mediocre production.

(04-29-2017, 12:41 AM)Beaker Wrote: Garrett takes plays off....gonna be another Clowney...lots of talent, mediocre production.

Peppers is way over rated and doesn't really fit any position perfectly.

And the TE from Miami is a raw talent....the browns will find a way to ruin his career.

(05-07-2017, 10:14 PM)Vambo Wrote: Browns
Already gaining steam 

(05-07-2017, 10:14 PM)Vambo Wrote: The Bengals won just six games last season and then got worse by losing their two best offensive linemen, Whitworth and guard Kevin Zeitler, on the free-agent market. It marked the second consecutive offseason in which they suffered major net losses in free agency despite having money to spend.

And they didn't do much in the draft to convince us they're suddenly on the right track. 
They reached for speedy wide receiver John Ross in the top 10, despite the fact Ross is arguably a one-dimensional player who comes with medical red flags. Then they followed that up by drafting a walking red flag in running back Joe Mixon, who has first-round talent but could do more harm than good and, like Ross, doesn't really fill a major need. 
They did get great value for Mixon and third-round front seven defender Jordan Willis, but that doesn't make up for all of the losing they've been doing on and off the field. The offensive line still lacks experience, and the secondary lacks young talent. 
The way things are looking, the Bengals will be lucky to win more than a handful of games next season in the increasingly tough AFC North.

Browns
Already gaining steam coming off a run in free agency in which they revamped their offensive line and added an experienced and talented new No. 1 wide receiver in Kenny Britt, the Browns significantly upgraded their defense early on with top pick Myles Garrett and versatile first-round defensive back/linebacker Jabrill Peppers. But they weren't done there. They traded back into the first round and grabbed former Miami tight end David Njoku as well, giving them three of the best athletes in the draft. 

Looking at the Browns depth chart now, it's hard not to be excited, especially if you place your finger over the quarterback slot.
That, of course, is the elephant in the room. Cleveland has a loaded offensive line featuring potential Hall of Famer Joe Thomas and newly acquired studs Kevin Zeitler and J.C. Tretter, and a loaded pass-catching corps led by Britt, top 2016 selection Corey Coleman and 2017 first-rounder Njoku.
The Browns have a promising young running back in Isaiah Crowell (4.8 yards per carry last season) and a defense that features Garrett, Peppers, veterans Jamie Collins and Joe Haden, and recent high draft picks Danny Shelton and Emmanuel Ogbah. 
I kid you not, the Browns are—at least on paper—a good team, with a very bright future. But when you remove your finger from the quarterback slot on that depth chart and you see second-round project DeShone Kizer alongside Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan and Brock Osweiler, you're reminded not to get carried away with predictions regarding the 2017 Cleveland Browns.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2706187-nfl-power-rankings-where-does-every-team-stand-after-the-draft

(05-08-2017, 04:11 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: lol. That's what they always do in preseason. Then the season starts and the trannny falls out.