(05-21-2017, 01:55 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: this right,  'Curtis has more TDs and catches than Lynn Swann and nearly a yard more per catch than John Stallworth, two Steelers Hall-of-Famers from his era.'  that's a pretty impressive stat for Isaac Curtis.  I would never have believed it.

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Curtis-and-Anderson-hook-up-again/b725ec8a-994d-4634-bea7-c33771805e7a

(05-21-2017, 04:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is more a case of Swann being grossly overrated.

In Lynn Swann's entire career he had ONE season with more than 50 catches.

His single season career high for yards was 880.

He was not even the best WR on his own team.

(05-21-2017, 03:14 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: One of, if not the, most underrated bengals players ever.  Great player on the field, class act off it


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(05-21-2017, 05:18 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I got my first pack of football cards in 1977, age 8 years old.  I had just started paying attention to football that year, and chose the Bengals as my team.  Isaac Curtis was in that very first pack of cards that I ever bought, I remember getting one with Ken Riley later that season. 

A few years went by, and I slowly amassed a small shoebox full of football cards.  Then, fast forward to my middle teen years, my family held a yard sale while I was camping with friends for the weekend.  I bought my first pack of football cards in a couple years, and was excited to have Anthony Munoz, and wanted to immediately add them to my Bengals stack in the shoebox.  I looked high and low, could not find it.  Finally asked my Dad if he had seen my box of cards.  He said, "well, I hadn't seen you messing with them in a good while, figured they were just taking up space in your closet, so I sold them in the yard sale.".  I was devastated.

Imagine what some of those cards would be worth, to a collector today?  Funny thing is that this thread brought back an old memory, as Isaac Curtis was in the first pack of cards that I ever bought.

Yes, he should absolutely be in the H.O.F.

(05-21-2017, 04:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is more a case of Swann being grossly overrated.

In Lynn Swann's entire career he had ONE season with more than 50 catches.

His single season career high for yards was 880.

He was not even the best WR on his own team.

(05-21-2017, 04:49 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: But he has, "The Catch!" Lol.

(05-21-2017, 04:58 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Swann - like Bettis - is just another guy that's in the HOF "cuz Steelers".

(05-21-2017, 04:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is more a case of Swann being grossly overrated.

In Lynn Swann's entire career he had ONE season with more than 50 catches.

His single season career high for yards was 880.

He was not even the best WR on his own team.

(05-21-2017, 04:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is more a case of Swann being grossly overrated.

In Lynn Swann's entire career he had ONE season with more than 50 catches.

His single season career high for yards was 880.

He was not even the best WR on his own team.

(05-21-2017, 05:18 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I got my first pack of football cards in 1977, age 8 years old.  I had just started paying attention to football that year, and chose the Bengals as my team.  Isaac Curtis was in that very first pack of cards that I ever bought, I remember getting one with Ken Riley later that season. 

A few years went by, and I slowly amassed a small shoebox full of football cards.  Then, fast forward to my middle teen years, my family held a yard sale while I was camping with friends for the weekend.  I bought my first pack of football cards in a couple years, and was excited to have Anthony Munoz, and wanted to immediately add them to my Bengals stack in the shoebox.  I looked high and low, could not find it.  Finally asked my Dad if he had seen my box of cards.  He said, "well, I hadn't seen you messing with them in a good while, figured they were just taking up space in your closet, so I sold them in the yard sale.".  I was devastated.

Imagine what some of those cards would be worth, to a collector today?  Funny thing is that this thread brought back an old memory, as Isaac Curtis was in the first pack of cards that I ever bought.

Yes, he should absolutely be in the H.O.F.

(05-21-2017, 06:53 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: I don't he was overrated, it was more that he was catching passes from Bradshaw, Hanrraty, and Gilliam. Bradshaw was the best of the 3 but was a little above average QB who benefited from the best defense, great Oline, and running game. I think Swann would have put up better numbers with a better QB.

(05-21-2017, 04:58 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Swann - like Bettis - is just another guy that's in the HOF "cuz Steelers".

(05-22-2017, 01:35 PM)Whatever Wrote: Partially.  I've actually had this discussion with an old timer Steelers fan from back in the '70's.  He admits that Swann was a good player, but not HoF worthy.  However, he made a great point as to why Swann is so overrated.  He had a lot of great games on MNF and in the playoffs, and for most fans back then, that was about the only way you got to watch players from outside your market.  That created the perception nationally that he was this big time superstar when there were many games he was pedestrian or downright ineffective throughout a season.

(05-21-2017, 06:53 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: I don't he was overrated, it was more that he was catching passes from Bradshaw, Hanrraty, and Gilliam. Bradshaw was the best of the 3 but was a little above average QB who benefited from the best defense, great Oline, and running game. I think Swann would have put up better numbers with a better QB.

(05-23-2017, 08:34 AM)fredtoast Wrote: John Stallworth had multiple 1000 yard seasons with the exact same QBs.  Swan never had more than 880 receiving yards in a season.

Swann was not even the best WR on his own team.