(09-29-2017, 11:52 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Davante Adams took a vicious hit right in the chin from Danny Trevathan last night, sending him to the hospital.
There was chatter about whether Trevathan should be fined/suspended as soon as it happened.
For the record, Trevathan was flagged for the hit, but not ejected for targeting.
With the NFL putting a big emphasis on player safety and seeing that Burfict was given a 3-game suspension for a much less severe hit in the preseason, my questions are:

1) Should Danny Trevathan be suspended for that hit?
2) If so, how many games does he deserve?
3) What if Burfict had been the one to hit Davante Adams like that?

(09-29-2017, 11:52 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Davante Adams took a vicious hit right in the chin from Danny Trevathan last night, sending him to the hospital.
There was chatter about whether Trevathan should be fined/suspended as soon as it happened.
For the record, Trevathan was flagged for the hit, but not ejected for targeting.
With the NFL putting a big emphasis on player safety and seeing that Burfict was given a 3-game suspension for a much less severe hit in the preseason, my questions are:

1) Should Danny Trevathan be suspended for that hit?
2) If so, how many games does he deserve?
3) What if Burfict had been the one to hit Davante Adams like that?

(09-29-2017, 11:52 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Davante Adams took a vicious hit right in the chin from Danny Trevathan last night, sending him to the hospital.
There was chatter about whether Trevathan should be fined/suspended as soon as it happened.
For the record, Trevathan was flagged for the hit, but not ejected for targeting.
With the NFL putting a big emphasis on player safety and seeing that Burfict was given a 3-game suspension for a much less severe hit in the preseason, my questions are:

1) Should Danny Trevathan be suspended for that hit?
2) If so, how many games does he deserve?
3) What if Burfict had been the one to hit Davante Adams like that?

(09-29-2017, 11:59 AM)PhilHos Wrote: This is why there should be a schedule of penalties (i.e. first offense fine of $___, second offense 1 game suspension, etc.) and not just be left up to the whim of a seriously biased commissioner.

The question would already be answered.

(09-29-2017, 12:14 PM)Wyche Wrote: Yes

1 game

Probably banned for life.

(09-29-2017, 12:26 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: There is a schedule for personal foul penalties. Burfict has progressed quite nicely through it.

http://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/fines-appeals/

On Trevathon, he should be penalized according to the schedule. If it’s a first or second offense, a fine, if it’s more then suspension.

(09-29-2017, 12:32 PM)Wyche Wrote: I agree with you, except that the hit Trevathan laid on Adams was rather egregious, and dangerous.  It wasn't a shove, or a questionable hit over the middle of the field, or fighting/taunting, it was targeting.  The dude was wrapped up and going down.  It wasn't a bang bang play either.  There was intent with malice in my eyes.

(09-29-2017, 12:41 PM)Sweetness Wrote: That's what most people who aren't Bengals fans say about Burfict. Burfict has been in trouble multiple times where it's just like "Dude, why?" because he hits people for no reason (see his most recent suspension, Brown hit, etc.)

(09-29-2017, 12:26 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: There is a schedule for personal foul penalties. Hobson has referred to it when explaining Burfict fines/suspensions.

On Trevathon, he should be penalized according to the schedule. If it’s a first or second offense, a fine, if it’s more then suspension. Burfict was fined the first 3 times, suspended 1 game, suspended 4 games and then 5 games (reduced to 3 on appeal)

(09-29-2017, 11:59 AM)PhilHos Wrote: This is why there should be a schedule of penalties (i.e. first offense fine of $___, second offense 1 game suspension, etc.) and not just be left up to the whim of a seriously biased commissioner.

The question would already be answered.

(09-29-2017, 12:50 PM)depthchart Wrote: I am not normally a Conspiracy Theorist, however, I do think that the NFL Commissioner has a Hierarchy of Owners that he has favorable relationships with. It appears to me, and I could be wrong, that the Rooney Family of the Steelers is closer to Roger Goodell than say Robert Kraft right now. The Rooney Family may be in the TOP 5 of Owners closest to Goodell. Mike Brown may be near the bottom of the pack.

That "closeness" could easily mean influence with Goodell and Burfict has injured some of the Steelers top players the past few seasons.
I'm of the opinion that the Rooney Family has Goodell on High Alert when it comes to Burfict and the Rooney Family will use their influence with Goodell to push Burfict out of the league as quickly as possible. They will have a "Hair Trigger" to punish Burfict every chance they get and may apply a different Standard to him due to the Hierarchy of Owner influence on Goodell. Steelers being near the top and Bengals ownership near the bottom in influence. Any organized group of people will have unofficial hierarchies of those closer to versus less close to that group's chosen leader. People influence other people and connect with some in the group more than others and the NFL may be no different.

Am I way off base and just being paranoid here or do any of you agree that the Rooney Family has this influence with Goodell as it pertains to Burfict ?

(09-29-2017, 12:18 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's important to note that Burfict's suspension had to do with repeated infractions not severity of that particular hit against KC. I think the biggest argument against the suspension was that it wasn't a personal foul in the game and wasn't a personal foul.

Thus if he commits a personal foul that is moderate he's getting suspended for 8 games. ie He won't necessarily have to take a guys head off.

(09-29-2017, 12:57 PM)Wyche Wrote: No, you're not.  The Rooneys helped good ol Rog' get his gig, and Dan Rooney was even the one to come to his hotel room and tell him the news that he had been appointed commish.

(09-29-2017, 01:08 PM)depthchart Wrote: Hotel room visit huh...

Mike Brown needs to get a new Night Gown and get up to speed in this area with a Midnight visit of his own.

Quote:When the NFL owners elected Roger Goodell as commissioner in August 2006, the news was delivered to Goodell by the respected owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dan Rooney.

Goodell was registered as “Roger Washington” at the Renaissance North Shore hotel in the Chicago suburb of Northbrook, Ill., where the owners were meeting to choose the successor to the retiring Paul Tagliabue. Goodell was in his room at the hotel when the owners completed their vote on the fifth ballot. Rooney headed up the elevator and knocked on Goodell’s door. When Goodell answered, Rooney simply smiled broadly and the two hugged.